ᐅ Purchase of a vacant farmhouse in a rural area outside the built-up zone
Created on: 15 Sep 2018 13:08
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Ilef123
Hello everyone,
I am new here and urgently need some advice. We have fallen in love with an old farmhouse located in a district of our municipality (in Brandenburg). One reason we like the property so much is that it lies on the edge of several fields, with the nearest neighboring house approximately 50–200m (55–220 yards) away. Visually, the property is clearly distinct from the nearby settlement.
A few days ago, we learned that the current owner is willing to sell the farmhouse to us. We immediately started researching and arranged an appointment with the building authority, which will take place soon. During our research, we came across the topics of “outlying area” zoning and “scattered settlement,” which at first felt like a big setback, as we are generally only interested in properties like this. The farmhouse has probably been unoccupied for many years and apparently is not currently habitable (we have yet to do an interior inspection; there is significant damage to several roofs, though most exterior walls appear to be in acceptable condition).
We really want to buy this property and are willing to fight for it if there is a chance of success. Even just the land alone is worth the effort to us, so the poor condition of the buildings doesn’t discourage us much. We both have building experience, but as we are now realizing, not the legal or planning expertise. Our initial idea was, of course, to demolish at will and build a new, custom-designed house (construction would start no earlier than 2020). However, since we have read that the best we might achieve is to restore the existing residential buildings in the same form and in the same place, we would accept that too (although we don’t yet know exactly what counts as living space there, and we are tempted by the idea of turning one of the barns into a living room).
We feel quite overwhelmed and desperate and only have a few days to decide, as there are other interested parties. Could someone advise us on the best approach, what we should absolutely avoid, and what we need to be careful about? Is there a realistic chance of success? We know this probably isn’t a reasonable idea and that it will be a difficult path, but we want to give it a try.
Thanks in advance!
I am new here and urgently need some advice. We have fallen in love with an old farmhouse located in a district of our municipality (in Brandenburg). One reason we like the property so much is that it lies on the edge of several fields, with the nearest neighboring house approximately 50–200m (55–220 yards) away. Visually, the property is clearly distinct from the nearby settlement.
A few days ago, we learned that the current owner is willing to sell the farmhouse to us. We immediately started researching and arranged an appointment with the building authority, which will take place soon. During our research, we came across the topics of “outlying area” zoning and “scattered settlement,” which at first felt like a big setback, as we are generally only interested in properties like this. The farmhouse has probably been unoccupied for many years and apparently is not currently habitable (we have yet to do an interior inspection; there is significant damage to several roofs, though most exterior walls appear to be in acceptable condition).
We really want to buy this property and are willing to fight for it if there is a chance of success. Even just the land alone is worth the effort to us, so the poor condition of the buildings doesn’t discourage us much. We both have building experience, but as we are now realizing, not the legal or planning expertise. Our initial idea was, of course, to demolish at will and build a new, custom-designed house (construction would start no earlier than 2020). However, since we have read that the best we might achieve is to restore the existing residential buildings in the same form and in the same place, we would accept that too (although we don’t yet know exactly what counts as living space there, and we are tempted by the idea of turning one of the barns into a living room).
We feel quite overwhelmed and desperate and only have a few days to decide, as there are other interested parties. Could someone advise us on the best approach, what we should absolutely avoid, and what we need to be careful about? Is there a realistic chance of success? We know this probably isn’t a reasonable idea and that it will be a difficult path, but we want to give it a try.
Thanks in advance!
Ilef123 schrieb:
I just want other frustrated people working on exterior areas and skeptics to know that things can sometimes go well.I'm really happy for you, but this is unlikely to be of much help to others in similar situations without more context. What exceptional circumstance did you rely on?Ilef123 schrieb:
Our house will have an H-shaped design.Hehe, that’s the subtle difference between Section 35 and Section 34 ;-)Ilef123 schrieb:
Since 2018, we have been maintaining a construction blog on Instagram, which we plan to update soon. It also shows views of the plans.Just be careful not to reveal where it can be found by sharing a direct link ;-)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
I’m really happy for you, but this will hardly be of much help to others in similar situations. What exceptional circumstance were you able to claim?
To answer that specifically, I would need to look at the preliminary decision, which I don’t have with me right now. In the end, we decided to purchase because the existing building rights or residential rights had not yet expired. Additionally, we reduced the size of the courtyard (which wasn’t a big issue given there were eleven buildings) and did not expand further into the outer development area.
Hehe, that’s the subtle difference between §35 and §34 ;-)
When choosing which building would eventually become our home, we weren’t completely free. Originally, we wanted to convert a barn into a house. That wasn’t possible. We spent months working together with the building authority to find an alternative and ultimately found a good solution. We do like the H-shape, though.
Remember, under no circumstances reveal where to find it with a link ;-) Is that forbidden? Yes? No problem.
Unfortunately, much of your answer is hidden in the quote ...
For example, under "Information" in your profile, you could—though preferably without the URL—reveal the name under which the blog can be found.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Ilef123 schrieb:
Is that forbidden, yes? No problem.
For example, under "Information" in your profile, you could—though preferably without the URL—reveal the name under which the blog can be found.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/