ᐅ 4 residential units and only one internet connection— is legal separation possible?
Created on: 6 Dec 2020 13:08
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knalltüte
Hello,
some of you might still remember what my brother and I are currently building. It is a duplex with a total of 4 residential units.
We are currently considering having just one internet connection for all the units (which will be rented out fully furnished and inclusive) and sharing it among them. From a technical standpoint, separating the connections properly is no problem at all (I will set up an appropriate router/firewall myself), but I am unsure about the legal aspects and how this can be arranged.
I’m not overly worried about it, but the “devil is in the details.”
For my customers, I usually recommend “legally safe” guest Wi-Fi solutions like “Freifunk routers.” However, these limit the bandwidth too much.
That’s why I would prefer, if possible, another solution here. Fortunately, the available bandwidth is 500 Mbit/s (gigabit fiber from Vodafone).
If this is allowed, I would order the connection as a business line since I need a fixed IPv4 address anyway and then share it with the other units.
some of you might still remember what my brother and I are currently building. It is a duplex with a total of 4 residential units.
We are currently considering having just one internet connection for all the units (which will be rented out fully furnished and inclusive) and sharing it among them. From a technical standpoint, separating the connections properly is no problem at all (I will set up an appropriate router/firewall myself), but I am unsure about the legal aspects and how this can be arranged.
I’m not overly worried about it, but the “devil is in the details.”
For my customers, I usually recommend “legally safe” guest Wi-Fi solutions like “Freifunk routers.” However, these limit the bandwidth too much.
That’s why I would prefer, if possible, another solution here. Fortunately, the available bandwidth is 500 Mbit/s (gigabit fiber from Vodafone).
If this is allowed, I would order the connection as a business line since I need a fixed IPv4 address anyway and then share it with the other units.
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knalltüte6 Dec 2020 17:07Tassimat schrieb:
I would never rent an apartment where I couldn’t get my own internet connection.
That is only acceptable in a shared flat or student dormitory. Hi,
I never said the tenant could not get their own connection here 😎
All options are naturally available (RG11 + fiber optic + LAN from the unit to the technical room). Unfortunately, in this development area, only Unitymedia or Vodafone are available. Telekom considered the area too small! 😱
I just want to offer the tenant (only if legally possible) the option to use an existing internet connection right away (no telephony!). Telephone service is often not wanted anymore (mobile phones). For your information: TV reception is via a satellite dish on the roof, which can be used but doesn’t have to be.
P.S.: I also see the whole thing from a "resource conservation" perspective.
rick2018 schrieb:
Then you don’t need to segment networks, just separate all clients.Maybe I’m thinking about it the wrong way, but if I were the original poster, I would install one LAN outlet per rented unit. From there, exactly one IP address can be assigned. That way, the tenant can either connect a PC directly or use their preferred router and manage whatever devices they want behind it. I don’t quite understand what is meant by “separate all clients.”
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knalltüte6 Dec 2020 17:13K1300S schrieb:
Maybe I'm just thinking the wrong way, but if I were the original poster, I would install one LAN socket per rented unit. Each socket would correspond to exactly one IP address. That way, the tenant can either connect a PC directly or attach their preferred router and manage whatever they want behind it. I don't quite understand what is meant by "separating all clients." Currently planned is that the tenant will find a ready-to-use network (switch, router, Wi-Fi).
However, they will have full control over the network, including access points (so they can set the Wi-Fi password themselves, for example).
They can either use the preconfigured router connected to the shared line or arrange for their own internet connection and simply switch over the connection themselves.
As an option, they might be able to purchase “packages” from me (our company or myself as landlord), such as a NAS or other technical add-ons that I can’t think of at the moment.
Anyone with technical knowledge definitely wouldn’t want a solution like that. Those without any technical skills will want the technician from Vodafone to set it up and won’t configure anything themselves. The third group, somewhere in between, will always blame you whenever some trivial website doesn’t work and will bother you at all hours, day and night, to fix the internet. Again: don’t put yourself through that.
These are just regular rental apartments, right? Not furnished apartments or boarding house style? If it’s a standard rental unit, I wouldn’t spend a second thinking about it or investing any money. Managing it, along with the constant concern of all tenants that their data won’t stay private, isn’t worth the hassle for me. I’ve seen a lot, but so far, no one has ever wanted something like that. If there are only providers X and Y available, that’s just how it is. When I do a viewing, I ask about the internet situation. If it’s acceptable, fine—if it fails because of the provider, then the apartment wasn’t suitable anyway.
Also: Why would anyone want to book a “NAS package” from you? Either they are completely unaware and don’t even need a NAS, or they handle it themselves—because they know how. Why would you put yourself through that and provide the service? You can be sure you’ll be the first call whenever ANYTHING goes wrong—even if Netflix is just experiencing a server outage.
Also: Why would anyone want to book a “NAS package” from you? Either they are completely unaware and don’t even need a NAS, or they handle it themselves—because they know how. Why would you put yourself through that and provide the service? You can be sure you’ll be the first call whenever ANYTHING goes wrong—even if Netflix is just experiencing a server outage.
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