Hello,
I am new to this forum and urgently need advice regarding a quote I received for my air-to-water heat pump. We want to switch from our oil heating system to a heat pump.
We need to heat about 240 square meters (2600 square feet), divided roughly as follows: 40% underfloor heating / 60% radiators.
The quote includes the following:
Arotherm plus VWL 125/6 uniSTOR /310
Extension kit for mixing circuit aroTHERM plus
Property "system-protect"
Modernization package for underfloor/mixed heating
Price: €29,854.72 including VAT and installation.
The quote contains no further details beyond the VAT and product descriptions.
No consultation took place, only basic information was gathered by phone. My main concern is not the equipment offered, but the price seems rather high to me.
When I search for these items online, I find prices up to around €15,000 without installation.
What do you think about this quote?
Kind regards
Arguss123
I am new to this forum and urgently need advice regarding a quote I received for my air-to-water heat pump. We want to switch from our oil heating system to a heat pump.
We need to heat about 240 square meters (2600 square feet), divided roughly as follows: 40% underfloor heating / 60% radiators.
The quote includes the following:
Arotherm plus VWL 125/6 uniSTOR /310
Extension kit for mixing circuit aroTHERM plus
Property "system-protect"
Modernization package for underfloor/mixed heating
Price: €29,854.72 including VAT and installation.
The quote contains no further details beyond the VAT and product descriptions.
No consultation took place, only basic information was gathered by phone. My main concern is not the equipment offered, but the price seems rather high to me.
When I search for these items online, I find prices up to around €15,000 without installation.
What do you think about this quote?
Kind regards
Arguss123
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WilderSueden2 Aug 2022 21:31What kind of company will come? A heat pump installer will sell you a heat pump—that’s their business. You need someone who gives you independent advice, not a salesperson.
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Arguss1232 Aug 2022 22:12Yes, I know, but at the moment it is very difficult to find someone.
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WilderSueden2 Aug 2022 22:27I don’t understand. Why is it so urgent for you to get someone right now? You will be heating with oil this winter, whether you like it or not. Realistically, you won’t get a heat pump installed, nor anyone who can install it by then. Even if it would make sense — and according to everything we know, it doesn’t.
So why rush into something now instead of taking your time to consider and do the right thing? Can you explain that?
So why rush into something now instead of taking your time to consider and do the right thing? Can you explain that?
You don’t need to retrofit anything at the moment. You should perform a hydraulic balancing and address the weak points of the house. You can also consider making improvements to the heating system.
With a supply temperature of 60°C (140°F), you will likely reach an annual performance factor of around 2. Taking into account the losses of the current boiler, you would need approximately 13,000 kWh of electricity just for the heat pump. This corresponds to about $4,000 per year for heating energy.
You should lower the supply temperature as much as possible; there is still room for improvement. Insulate all pipes and the heating storage tank. Set up the controls properly. Insulate roller shutter boxes, adjust windows, and check for airtightness. Insulate the basement ceiling if there is one. And so on.
Many improvements can be made for relatively little money.
If nothing else works, you could switch to a ductless heat pump (split system), which can also provide heating. This usually achieves an annual performance factor of around 3. That should be sufficient as a temporary solution and might cost about $5,000.
With a supply temperature of 60°C (140°F), you will likely reach an annual performance factor of around 2. Taking into account the losses of the current boiler, you would need approximately 13,000 kWh of electricity just for the heat pump. This corresponds to about $4,000 per year for heating energy.
You should lower the supply temperature as much as possible; there is still room for improvement. Insulate all pipes and the heating storage tank. Set up the controls properly. Insulate roller shutter boxes, adjust windows, and check for airtightness. Insulate the basement ceiling if there is one. And so on.
Many improvements can be made for relatively little money.
If nothing else works, you could switch to a ductless heat pump (split system), which can also provide heating. This usually achieves an annual performance factor of around 3. That should be sufficient as a temporary solution and might cost about $5,000.
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HilfeHilfe3 Aug 2022 07:15It’s nonsense to put quark into the pump here. You should simply look at what you can adjust more efficiently.
The 30k against the pump will only pay off after 20-25 years.
The 30k against the pump will only pay off after 20-25 years.
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