ᐅ 3. Floor Plan Design New Single-Family House 220 sqm 2 Full Stories Roof Terrace

idasb79 schrieb:

We just wanted to hear opinions and criticism first, regardless of what we can financially plan or afford.

That is complete nonsense. If you can’t afford it, then don’t plan that way in the first place. That saves everyone involved valuable time. Otherwise, we urgently need a section called “Castles in the Air.” 🙄

haydee schrieb:

Why is that not up-to-date?

That’s what the architect said. He didn’t provide any further explanation. He also mentioned that a walk-in closet doesn’t need a window; that’s not usually done.

haydee schrieb:

It’s not modern to plan a children’s bathroom next to the parents’ bedroom and to have to cross the relaxation area to get there.

At the moment, I have about three different design options for the upper floor. I will share them here when I’m back at my computer. There is…

K1300S schrieb:

That’s complete nonsense. If you can’t afford it, then don’t plan it that way in the first place. That would save everyone involved valuable time. Otherwise, we urgently need a section for “pipe dreams.”

Your statement is nonsense.
Who says we can’t afford it? Even with financial means, I can set a planning budget.
Regarding the valuable time of those involved—
Who exactly do you mean? Most of you are probably here out of boredom, so my posts might even give some of you a purpose for your time. :p

To be honest, you don’t really know what you want or need. After all, this is already the third draft being presented here. And advice is either ignored or always criticized.

I think your architect simply doesn’t want to engage with you, so they design what you want to hear.

Your planned budget is then comparable to that of the Elbphilharmonie... €77 million planned, €860 million spent.

idasb79 schrieb:

Who are you referring to? Most of you are probably here out of boredom, so thanks to my posts, for some, their time spent actually has a purpose

Especially in your case, I enjoy your naivety.

@idasb79 I understand that some responses here might have upset or bothered you, or however you want to put it. Perhaps you were hoping for more support after all the thought you put into this.
It’s your house, and you need to feel comfortable living in it over the coming years. My comments are purely based on my own perception and feelings.
For me, the relaxation area upstairs feels too much like a passage room since it’s open towards the stairs and hallway; the kids and their guests would have to walk past the sofa on their way to the bathroom. I love open galleries in houses from a design perspective, but lying there reading, watching TV, or listening to music—I wouldn’t feel comfortable. Of course, it might be different for you.

Regarding the architect’s statement, I had to smile—I don’t know of any house from the 1970s that has separate parent-child areas with their own bathrooms. That aside, I find it practical and easier on everyone's nerves to have some separation once the kids reach a certain age, if the space allows for it. But if you like your architect, their reference designs, and other ideas, and they suit you, then that’s great!
I wouldn’t worry about architectural planning either. A good architect doesn’t ignore your wishes but offers other ideas and suggestions if you let them.

What roof pitch should the roof have?
Even with a north-facing orientation, installing photovoltaic panels can still be worthwhile.

From experience, I recommend thinking about how you want to use the roof terrace.
If there is no wide view up there that you don’t already have on the regular terrace, it will be difficult to make it an attractive feature in a single-family home.
Since there is no home office, the only option I really see left is a wellness area, as I find the master bedroom area too inconvenient and the terrace there probably wouldn’t be used much.

We also had the plan to use the roof terrace as a regular terrace on a regular basis.
However, that is usually unrealistic because you are often just too lazy to go upstairs when you have everything right next to the kitchen and garden downstairs, without having to go down and back up two floors for every new drink, snack, or whatever... 😉

Our roof terrace was used only rarely in spring and autumn, because in summer you simply can’t stay up there until late in the evening.
Last winter, I built a sauna in the entrance area, and now the roof terrace is an investment worth its cost.
We have prepared the roof terrace for a hot tub (high-voltage power supply, water), so let’s see what the future holds.

If you want your house to look like that, I would approach it as follows:

Create a relaxation area upstairs by the roof terrace, accessible only through the master bedroom on the upper floor.
This way, the bathroom on the upper floor can be used after the sauna without leaving the master bedroom area.

A utility room can be added upstairs in the space that becomes available. That way, the laundry is done where it’s generated.

Downstairs, space will be freed up, allowing the utility room to also serve as a storage room, and the guest room/office will have a properly usable size.
The ballroom stays a ballroom, and the relaxation area won’t turn into a passageway but will truly become a retreat. 😉

idasb79 schrieb:

Who says we can’t afford it.

Well, you yourself said:

idasb79 schrieb:

We just wanted to hear opinions and criticism first, regardless of what is financially planned or possible.

If something is not feasible, it’s pointless to invest time in it. And if your budget doesn’t allow at least 100,000 (approximately 110,000) more, then discussing this design attempt is futile, apart from the fact that beyond a certain level of over-planning, it’s better not to keep making minor tweaks that make things worse but to start fresh—preferably with someone who has proper training and knows how to approach such a project.