ᐅ One private plot of land with house construction and fully personalized landscaping

Created on: 12 Apr 2020 18:40
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Lisa24
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Lisa24
12 Apr 2020 18:40
Hello everyone,

Since we are moving into our new build this year, we are starting to think about the garden design. We are beginners when it comes to gardening—we are Lisa, 27 years old, and Udo, 31 years old—but as they say, you grow with your tasks. Since not everything will be there from the start, we are confident we can manage it.

Our plot and how the house, garage + passageway are arranged:
Plot layout with house, cistern, boundary distances to neighbors, and green space.


Explanation of the plot:
- We have a rectangular plot that narrows to a long point at the rear.
- The street runs in front of the house and isn’t very busy. Our garage is located to the left of the house, with a covered passageway 2.50m (8 feet) wide between the house and garage. The garage and passage share the same roof structure and roofing. Both connect directly to the house.
- A paved driveway will be in front of the garage, and the passageway will also be paved from the property boundary to the end of the passageway (towards the garden) using the same paving as the driveway.
- We need to be able to drive a tractor between neighbor 2’s property and the garage for garden work. At the moment, we can also access the property through neighbor 3’s land, but it’s uncertain if this will always be possible, so we want to keep this option open.
- Directly adjacent to the house in the garden there will be a terrace made of Jura limestone or concrete patio slabs.
- At the back right corner of the garage, near the passageway, is our cistern in the garden, which we want to design with a fountain on top.
- We would like to place curved lawn edging stones around the different areas; this will make it easier for the robotic lawn mower and will also cover bare soil with bark mulch. (See: lawn edging stones + bark mulch)

Well-maintained garden with curved paving edge, lawn, and mulch beds with ornamental shrubs.

- Where would you place all these must-haves, preferably with drawings, considering a possible future pool so we don’t have to cut down a tree for it later?
- Areas where people spend longer periods, such as the fire pit, should not be too close to the neighbors. We like our neighbors, but we also want privacy when we are with friends.

Must haves / What we definitely want:
- Raise an earth mound around the entire property (except along the street side) and then install a fence on top.
- Welded wire mesh fence to neighbors 1, 2, 3, and 4/lawn area.
- Aluminum fence facing the street (see: aluminum fence).
Black metal garden fence with white concrete posts on the sidewalk, plants behind.

- Initially create paths with gravel or bark mulch, possibly paving them later.
- Build a fountain over the cistern (see: fountain).
Stone fountain with wooden cover in the garden, surrounded by shrubs.

- Fire pit (see: fire pit).
Round stone fire pit with surrounding seating area, cushions, and lanterns in the background.

- Herb garden/herb spiral, preferably the spiral because it requires less space (see: herb spiral).
Round, multi-tiered stone ring used as a garden bed with herbs on grass.

- Beds for vegetables and fruits, ideally as a separate area if the garden isn’t too small (see: vegetable bed).
Several raised beds with vegetables in a community garden, including climbing plants and wooden frames.

- Trees (fruit)
- Shrubs (fruit)
- Beds and shrubs possibly as a “snacking corner” (fruit)?
- Children’s area (swing, slide, paddling pool, sandbox)

Nice to have / What we’d like to do someday:
- Possibly a patio roof cover, though for now other things are more important.
- Pool about 6x4m (size not yet finalized), earliest in 6–10 years!

Questions:
- How large would you make the terrace to fit a 1.80m (6 feet) long table with 6 chairs, a grill, a parasol, and still leave room for walking and moving around? About 5x4m (16x13 feet)?
- Would you recommend building the earth mound so the fence can be lower? It would increase overall height to keep out unwanted guests/animals (dogs) from the garden, and reduce fence costs since the fence could be shorter.
- Would you start by creating paths with gravel or bark mulch first to save costs and add paving later?
- I want to pick herbs directly from the kitchen window, but there is no countertop in front of the window. How would you solve this? I generally prefer an herb spiral for the look.
- Would you create distinct areas? For example, a vegetable bed/garden and a snacking corner.

Have we forgotten anything important? How would you fit everything in if possible?

As you can see, we are beginners, eager to learn, and look forward to your experience.

Best regards and happy Easter,

Lisa & Udo
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haydee
12 Apr 2020 22:46
Why do you want to build a complete wall plus welded mesh fence around the entire property?
Do you have that much excavation material?
Is this type of enclosure allowed?

Vegetable garden by the cistern,
play area connected to the terrace, later a pool
fire pit facing the triangular section
This is roughly how I would arrange it.

For privacy screening, I would work with hedges. Bird protection hedge, four-season hedge, butterfly hedge, etc.
Partly thorny so no one passes through voluntarily; pruning doesn’t have to be done twice a year.
Berry hedge for snacking.

I would distribute the snack garden throughout the whole property. Where cranberry is used as ground cover, there strawberries as border planting, and here red currants as decorative small trees.

Fruit trees come in all forms from columnar and bushy to standard trees, with a huge variety from apricot to walnut.
You have to decide what you want or need. Many fruit varieties but fewer fruits, or fewer varieties with a larger harvest.

I would recommend choosing one style for the garden and then selecting materials accordingly.
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nordanney
12 Apr 2020 22:50
Question: What is your budget? Your wishes quickly add up to six figures.
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ypg
12 Apr 2020 23:15
nordanney schrieb:

Question: What budget do you have? Your wishes quickly reach six figures.

He’s not entirely wrong. This is quite a collection from Pinterest, but where is what is financially feasible?
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Müllerin
12 Apr 2020 23:25
Make sure to plant the tree in a way that it does not shade the solar panels on the roof later.
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Lisa24
13 Apr 2020 10:00
haydee schrieb:

Why do you want to completely surround the property with a retaining wall plus a wire mesh fence?
Do you have that much excavation?
Is this type of enclosure allowed?

Utility garden by the cistern,
Play area connected to the terrace, later a pool
Fire pit near the triangle
This is roughly how I would arrange it.

For privacy screening, I would use hedges: bird protection hedge, four-season hedge, butterfly hedge, etc.
Partly thorny so nobody passes through easily, and pruning wouldn’t need to be done twice a year.
Berry hedge for snacking.

I would distribute the snack garden throughout the property. Cranberries can be used as ground cover, strawberries for bed edging, and currants as decorative small trees.

Fruit trees are available in all forms—from columnar to bush to full-standard trees, from apricot to walnut, there is an extremely wide selection.
You will need to decide what you want or need. Many types of fruits but fewer quantities or fewer fruit varieties but several hundred kilos.

I would agree on one style in the garden and then choose materials accordingly.

Hi haydee,

Thanks for the suggestions and comments.

Of course, we have a budget of about 20,000 € without the pool, which we do not want to exceed, but since we plan to do a lot ourselves with help from friends and family, and because the garden will take years until everything is in place, I think we’ll manage well. The priorities are set, and we will do one thing after another; if there’s no money left for something, we simply won’t do it for now.

We wanted a retaining wall to gain height without using taller wire mesh fencing since taller ones are more expensive. We have quite a bit of excavation and are planning to get some more from other homeowners nearby.

Regarding the enclosure, the development plan says:

Document text about property enclosures, fences, and walls in the street area

But since there is also this neighborhood law... there are many different fences, hedges, walls in the immediate vicinity, although it’s a different development area, it should still be fine. Of course, we will talk to the adjacent neighbors 1-4 beforehand so that it’s okay for them as well.

Would you place the pool lengthwise and centered in the plot when viewed from the terrace? So, would the children’s play equipment be in front of the terrace as well? Wouldn’t that create too much shade and disturbance when sitting on the terrace with friends?

Yes, about the fire pit, we have also considered positioning it near the triangle. I am attaching the site elevation plan; it would be easiest if the fire pit were placed in the middle of the property (measured from the house to the back boundary lengthwise), as this is the lowest point and we wouldn’t have to dig too deep.
Or is that too close to the terrace? Because of smoke and ash.

Architectural plan: northwest view of a house with terrace and garage


For visual screening, we thought about attaching the corresponding bands to the wire mesh fence.
We only want hedges occasionally at the edges of the property—sort of between the retaining wall/fence and the lawn edging stones.

Do several “sections” (snack garden, vegetable garden, children’s play area) look too chaotic? Or is there simply no space for that? I wanted to break up the straight lines a bit and add variation.

Where would you place the shed? We thought about attaching it directly to the garage, but placing it near the vegetable garden would also be great, hmm...

We want a kind of modern cottage garden style because we already have a modern house, but still want to work a lot with wood, natural materials, and stones.

Three views of a white two-story house with a gray roof as 3D render

Top left is the back side, where the terrace will be,
bottom left + top right are the front, view from the street towards the house.

Best regards,
Lisa & Udo