Hello everyone,
after browsing through many posts, I would like to share the design of an architect from a construction company for a single-family house with 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) of living space for discussion. Overall, we like it quite a bit, but I am curious about your opinions. Maybe you could take a look.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 711 sqm (7,649 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.35
Gross floor area ratio (GFA):
Building envelope, building line and boundary: yes, see image
Number of parking spaces: 1 per housing unit
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable, hip, pyramid, shed roof
Style: modern
Orientation: south
Maximum height/restrictions: 6.50 m (21 ft 4 in)
Additional requirements
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 (35), possibly a child
Room requirements on the ground floor: living room, dining room, kitchen, utility room, guest bathroom with shower, cloakroom; on the upper floor: master bedroom with walk-in closet, 1 child’s room, 1 guest/office room, large bathroom
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: approx. 5
Open or closed architecture: rather open
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: standard TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: undecided, but double
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes: storage room behind carport/garage, covered walkway to the main entrance
House design
Who created the design: architect from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? open living/dining area, kitchen with corner window implemented, bathroom on upper floor with T-shaped layout
What do you dislike? Why? divided walk-in closet (“walk-in closet” + “storage”), possibly the pantry location, general positioning of the house on the plot (likely due to the building envelope, a lot of space lost on the north side)
Price estimate according to architect/designer: not yet available
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: €350,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions
- could you do without: second room on the upper floor as large as the child’s room
- could you not do without: ?
This is a first preliminary draft from our architect. Unfortunately, no dimensions are included yet; those will only be provided once we approve a design.
One of the most difficult issues is the overall positioning of the house. The building envelope is unfortunately not ideal. The access road runs along the south side. To make optimal use of the plot (building envelope), the house would actually have to be positioned on the northern build boundary, but then it would not be parallel to the road.
I would appreciate your opinions and ideas!
Best regards
Edit: uploading images is currently not working, I am working on it
after browsing through many posts, I would like to share the design of an architect from a construction company for a single-family house with 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) of living space for discussion. Overall, we like it quite a bit, but I am curious about your opinions. Maybe you could take a look.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 711 sqm (7,649 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.35
Gross floor area ratio (GFA):
Building envelope, building line and boundary: yes, see image
Number of parking spaces: 1 per housing unit
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable, hip, pyramid, shed roof
Style: modern
Orientation: south
Maximum height/restrictions: 6.50 m (21 ft 4 in)
Additional requirements
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 (35), possibly a child
Room requirements on the ground floor: living room, dining room, kitchen, utility room, guest bathroom with shower, cloakroom; on the upper floor: master bedroom with walk-in closet, 1 child’s room, 1 guest/office room, large bathroom
Office: family use
Overnight guests per year: approx. 5
Open or closed architecture: rather open
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: standard TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: undecided, but double
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes: storage room behind carport/garage, covered walkway to the main entrance
House design
Who created the design: architect from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? open living/dining area, kitchen with corner window implemented, bathroom on upper floor with T-shaped layout
What do you dislike? Why? divided walk-in closet (“walk-in closet” + “storage”), possibly the pantry location, general positioning of the house on the plot (likely due to the building envelope, a lot of space lost on the north side)
Price estimate according to architect/designer: not yet available
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: €350,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions
- could you do without: second room on the upper floor as large as the child’s room
- could you not do without: ?
This is a first preliminary draft from our architect. Unfortunately, no dimensions are included yet; those will only be provided once we approve a design.
One of the most difficult issues is the overall positioning of the house. The building envelope is unfortunately not ideal. The access road runs along the south side. To make optimal use of the plot (building envelope), the house would actually have to be positioned on the northern build boundary, but then it would not be parallel to the road.
I would appreciate your opinions and ideas!
Best regards
Edit: uploading images is currently not working, I am working on it
11ant schrieb:
I don’t see a direct connection there – I have seen pantries much more often in older city apartment buildings than in places where you could have your own vegetable garden. But I’m not trying to debate, just to clarify that one term with two interpretations can lead to two different planning outcomes.However, here it is mostly about new construction kitchens and not older city apartments...
ypg schrieb:
Most of the time, people here are talking about newly built kitchens, not old apartments in large cities... I understand that. What I meant to say is that the interpretation of a pantry that I’m more familiar with (and which is actually becoming popular again) is by no means connected to homeowners growing their own food. Instead, it has existed (more often in the past than today) even in apartments without gardens. It is more related to generational differences than to "vegetable or ornamental gardens."
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11ant schrieb:
That is clear to me. What I meant to say is that the interpretation of the pantry I’m more familiar with (and which is actually making a comeback) is by no means related to homeowner gardeners. Instead, it also exists (more frequently in the past than today) in apartments without gardens. It would be more connected to generations than to “vegetable gardening or ornamental gardening.”What do you want to express with that?
Edit: what message do you want to convey to the OP with it?
Nothing from the original poster (OP) – you brought up that the OP hadn’t mentioned anything about a kitchen garden. That’s why I pointed out that the approach to using the pantry for long-term storage isn’t related to whether the resident of the house (or apartment) is someone who grows vegetables or preserves their own canned goods. Even purchased cheese benefits from more durable storage. In older Berlin buildings, the traditionally styled pantry is popular regardless of whether the apartment tenant also rents a community garden plot or not.
So, I actually only added that on your “prompt” — starting a pantry thread here was and still isn’t really my intention. If you want, we can now gladly return to the many other aspects of the planned house.
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So, I actually only added that on your “prompt” — starting a pantry thread here was and still isn’t really my intention. If you want, we can now gladly return to the many other aspects of the planned house.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
That’s true: none of us really want to talk about old buildings and their room layouts focused on storage before the refrigerator era.
For just a piece of cheese or a kilogram (pound) of potatoes, no one here is going to build a 2 or 3 square meter (square yard) pantry.
Best regards
For just a piece of cheese or a kilogram (pound) of potatoes, no one here is going to build a 2 or 3 square meter (square yard) pantry.
Best regards
ypg schrieb:
Exactly: none of us really want to focus on old buildings and their room layouts related to storage before the era of refrigerators.Exactly, not me either, and I would like to conclude this tangent: this is not about old buildings, and this type of pantry construction has nothing to do with "before the time of the refrigerator." Most of these buildings date from the 1920s to the 1960s, when refrigerators had been around for a long time. The pantries were not a replacement for refrigerators! - there could be entire books written about the misunderstandings on this topic, but that is not my intention here, at least not in this thread.
ypg schrieb:
Not for a piece of cheese or a kilo, or a pound for you? Here, nobody builds a 2 or 3 sqm (20 or 30 sq ft) pantry for potatoes.The pantry in the first draft with 1.95 sqm (21 sq ft) is already near the upper limit of my interpretation of its purpose, which I also believe is shared by the planner. The more recent proposal with the straight wall, however, clearly aligns with the other interpretation.
For the original poster, who wants the multi-use pantry that does not require cellar-like conditions, this means: the proposal with the larger pantry makes more sense, and its planned location fits perfectly for this purpose. So the suggestion to straighten the wall is also fine. Adding the special corner window in the bedroom completes the setup perfectly.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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