Hello community,
I would like to get your feedback on the floor plan draft for our single-family house. We are building in Baden-Württemberg.
Below are the completed questionnaire and the floor plan drafts.
Thank you very much.
We are building a KFW40 timber frame house with a basement (waterproof concrete shell). The basement is insulated and heated.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – 333m² (3583 ft²) – Parcel 6146
Slope – approx. 0.7mm (0.03 inches) gradient from north to south
Site coverage ratio – 0.4
Floor area ratio – 0.7
Building envelope, building line and boundary – see pictures
Edge development – Garage/carport allowed within marked building envelope
Number of parking spaces – 2 – currently only one shown
Number of floors – 1.5
Roof type – gable roof, 40°
Architectural style – classic gable roof
Orientation – see development plan F
Maximum heights/limits – eaves 4.50m (14 ft 9 in) / ridge 9.20m (30 ft 2 in)
Other requirements – mandatory photovoltaic system, mandatory landscaping
Requirements from the homeowners
Style, roof shape, building type – gable roof
Basement, floors – basement, ground floor and upper floor – ground and upper floor approx. 140m² (1507 ft²)
Number of persons, ages – 39 / 38 / 9 / 7
Room requirements on ground and upper floor – wardrobe, shower toilet, pantry, kitchen, living and dining room, 2 children’s bedrooms, master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom
Office: family use or home office? – home office in basement / fitness room in basement / workshop in basement
Guests sleeping overnight per year – no
Open or closed architecture – open
Conservative or modern style – modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – kitchen island planned between kitchen and dining area, but without cooking surface!
Number of dining seats – round table with 6 seats
Fireplace – no
Music/sound system wall – 5.1 sound system plus 77-inch TV
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse – no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also explanations why something should or should not be included
House design
1st draft was an architect’s plan; we consulted with this and further refined the floor plan
What we like in particular:
- Straight staircase
- Spaciousness of the living room and connection to terrace and outdoor area
- Covered connection between carport and house
- Hallway and gallery – I am aware that this is very costly space, but it was chosen intentionally!
What we don’t like:
- I am concerned that the hallway downstairs will be too narrow and dark.
- Children’s rooms too narrow and elongated?
- Walk-in closet/bedroom layout doesn’t fit
- Shower/toilet too small
- Technical room too small
- Sound transfer due to open living concept
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 675k including photovoltaic/storage
Personal budget limit for house, including fittings: 850-880k
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump with ventilation system
If you had to give up on something, which details/extensions
- Could you give up: walk-in closet / pantry
- Could you not give up: basement with office and hobby room
Why is the design like this now?
Proposal from a construction company that matches our initial planning quite well.
I would like to get your feedback on the floor plan draft for our single-family house. We are building in Baden-Württemberg.
Below are the completed questionnaire and the floor plan drafts.
Thank you very much.
We are building a KFW40 timber frame house with a basement (waterproof concrete shell). The basement is insulated and heated.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – 333m² (3583 ft²) – Parcel 6146
Slope – approx. 0.7mm (0.03 inches) gradient from north to south
Site coverage ratio – 0.4
Floor area ratio – 0.7
Building envelope, building line and boundary – see pictures
Edge development – Garage/carport allowed within marked building envelope
Number of parking spaces – 2 – currently only one shown
Number of floors – 1.5
Roof type – gable roof, 40°
Architectural style – classic gable roof
Orientation – see development plan F
Maximum heights/limits – eaves 4.50m (14 ft 9 in) / ridge 9.20m (30 ft 2 in)
Other requirements – mandatory photovoltaic system, mandatory landscaping
Requirements from the homeowners
Style, roof shape, building type – gable roof
Basement, floors – basement, ground floor and upper floor – ground and upper floor approx. 140m² (1507 ft²)
Number of persons, ages – 39 / 38 / 9 / 7
Room requirements on ground and upper floor – wardrobe, shower toilet, pantry, kitchen, living and dining room, 2 children’s bedrooms, master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom
Office: family use or home office? – home office in basement / fitness room in basement / workshop in basement
Guests sleeping overnight per year – no
Open or closed architecture – open
Conservative or modern style – modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – kitchen island planned between kitchen and dining area, but without cooking surface!
Number of dining seats – round table with 6 seats
Fireplace – no
Music/sound system wall – 5.1 sound system plus 77-inch TV
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse – no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also explanations why something should or should not be included
House design
1st draft was an architect’s plan; we consulted with this and further refined the floor plan
What we like in particular:
- Straight staircase
- Spaciousness of the living room and connection to terrace and outdoor area
- Covered connection between carport and house
- Hallway and gallery – I am aware that this is very costly space, but it was chosen intentionally!
What we don’t like:
- I am concerned that the hallway downstairs will be too narrow and dark.
- Children’s rooms too narrow and elongated?
- Walk-in closet/bedroom layout doesn’t fit
- Shower/toilet too small
- Technical room too small
- Sound transfer due to open living concept
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 675k including photovoltaic/storage
Personal budget limit for house, including fittings: 850-880k
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump with ventilation system
If you had to give up on something, which details/extensions
- Could you give up: walk-in closet / pantry
- Could you not give up: basement with office and hobby room
Why is the design like this now?
Proposal from a construction company that matches our initial planning quite well.
Flo86!! schrieb:
The entrance area, the straight staircase, the gallery come from the architect. I’m coming back to my question because the more I look at the plan, the less I see the “architect.”Medium schrieb:
That’s not much. Would you like to show the original architect’s drawing? Now you write in response to my question about three features: entrance, staircase, gallery, but nothing about design or planning. What exactly is so special about the entrance designed by the architect? Or the straight staircase or the gallery? The latter just results naturally.Flo86!! schrieb:
House design 1. The design was an architect’s plan we used to request and further refine the floor plan Flo86!! schrieb:
Proposal from a construction company Then I see a mixture of approaches here. The architect should actually cost too much for you to “refine” this costly house design through a basic construction company. Because a construction company should not “refine” something that was already designed. It’s like going to an expensive Italian restaurant, ordering a great Bolognese, and then putting ketchup on it at home.That’s why I asked for the technical plans.
Flo86!! schrieb:
For the remaining points, I am thinking about them or discussing them with our architect. If people tell you that 2.80 meters (9 feet 3 inches) is too narrow for the bathtub and toilet, that the privacy screen doesn’t serve its purpose, or that the shower is located in the entrance area, then you can understand it or not. What does “discussing” mean? Either you order improvements or you don’t. However, you have a construction company’s design here. What is the architect supposed to do with that? This will become a ping-pong game between the construction company and the architect. The architect makes it nicer or different, then the construction company changes it back.I wonder if any professionals are actually advising you here and preparing a good plan worth their fee. I don’t see that at all.
Or was everything done by you, and now you want to tell us that this was planned by someone who knows what they’re doing? I don’t believe that. But you don’t have to tell us. Ultimately, it’s your 600,000 euros, and you have to live with it.
Flo86!! schrieb:
It’s not allowed according to the development plan. Here the idea would be to move the carport further back to the north and make the driveway large enough to count as a second parking space. Although I don’t find that ideal either for parking purposes. Is a trapped parking space even allowed? What did the experts say about that? They should be pointing this out. If the plans show planned parking bays in front of the plots, then parking seems quite limited on your property?!The waterproof concrete basement is because of flood protection, right?
11ant schrieb:
Enlighten us, where exactly do you see any structural issues here!? Well, if you don’t see it...
I’ll just mention a load-bearing wall as an example.
Rübe1 schrieb:
Well, if you don’t see that....
I’m just talking about a load-bearing wall as an example I do see them, all perfectly intact. Why don’t you mark where you think one is "missing" (and where the other "big ones" are, if that was just an example).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Rübe1 schrieb:
I'll just mention a load-bearing wall as an example Everything is there. The load-bearing wall and even the beam are marked.
By the way, it’s a timber frame.
11ant schrieb:
I see them, all perfectly in place Aha, where is the load-bearing wall in the basement?
And where is the load-bearing wall on the ground floor?
Maybe my perspective is off, but in my opinion, it’s once in front of the stairs and once behind the stairs.
Nice single-span beams…
Medium schrieb:
By the way, it’s timber frame Exactly!
Please clarify for me...
Rübe1 schrieb:
Ah, where is the load-bearing wall in the basement? On the plan, above the stairs, concrete.
Rübe1 schrieb:
And where is the load-bearing wall on the ground floor? On the plan, below the stairs, timber stud construction.
This approach is acceptable.
However, the staircase running across the space has a very negative impact on all rooms.
A better solution is a double quarter-turn staircase under the knee wall, creating nearly square or rectangular rooms on the left and right in the attic (ground floor), avoiding long narrow spaces.
Similar topics