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Project_IV23 Aug 2015 21:06Hello everyone,
after we put some thought into our floor plans and have already discussed them with builders/prefabricated house suppliers, we would now like to gather some opinions here.
We hope that the following information/attachments provide you with enough details while complying with the forum rules. The attached sketches illustrate our current ideas well, but the dimensions are not accurate “down to the last centimeter.”
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 530 sqm (5700 sq ft)
Slope => no (although about 1 m (3 ft) slope at one corner)
Site occupancy index => 0.3
Floor area ratio => 0.6
Roof style => gable roof (requirement 45–48°)
Other requirements => knee wall max. 1.50 m (5 ft), building length at least 11 m (36 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type => preferably 42° roof pitch (3° deviation from requirement)
Exterior dimensions => length side = 10 m (33 ft) (1 m / 3 ft deviation from requirement)
Basement, floors => basement + 2 floors
Number of occupants, age => 2 currently, potentially 4
Space requirement on ground and upper floors => approx. 75 sqm (800 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? => family use
Open or closed architecture => kitchen open, otherwise closed
Conservative or modern construction => modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island => yes, open kitchen (cooking area free-standing on at least three sides)
Number of dining seats => 6–8
Fireplace => yes, Swedish stove
Music/sound system wall => yes
Balcony, roof terrace => no
Garage, carport => yes, garage, carport, and parking space
Utility garden, greenhouse => no
House Design
Planned by:
- DIY by us (after discussions with various builders/prefabricated house suppliers)
What do you like most?:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
What do you dislike or want to improve?:
Carport Location
- originally planned to place the garage and carport directly next to the house → to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house needs to be placed as far north as possible
=> now we don’t see the carport in front of the house as negatively because it acts as a barrier to the street (about 600 vehicles per day), but a location directly next to the house would be preferable (although this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window Arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the placement of the couch by the terrace windows is still unclear; currently, the couch stands directly in front of the windows
- adding skylights (in bedrooms and stairway area) is still under consideration
Ground Floor
- the living room width of 4 m (13 ft) might be too narrow and could feel “corridor-like”
- currently no storage room on the ground floor
Upper Floor
- storage room currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at present)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
- around 300–350 thousand EUR
Personal price limit for the house including fittings:
- 350 thousand EUR (absolute maximum)
Preferred heating technology:
- gas boiler/solar vs. heat pump (air/water)
If you have to compromise, which details/features could you
… give up:
- storage room on the upper floor
… not give up:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
Thank you very much for your input!
after we put some thought into our floor plans and have already discussed them with builders/prefabricated house suppliers, we would now like to gather some opinions here.
We hope that the following information/attachments provide you with enough details while complying with the forum rules. The attached sketches illustrate our current ideas well, but the dimensions are not accurate “down to the last centimeter.”
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 530 sqm (5700 sq ft)
Slope => no (although about 1 m (3 ft) slope at one corner)
Site occupancy index => 0.3
Floor area ratio => 0.6
Roof style => gable roof (requirement 45–48°)
Other requirements => knee wall max. 1.50 m (5 ft), building length at least 11 m (36 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type => preferably 42° roof pitch (3° deviation from requirement)
Exterior dimensions => length side = 10 m (33 ft) (1 m / 3 ft deviation from requirement)
Basement, floors => basement + 2 floors
Number of occupants, age => 2 currently, potentially 4
Space requirement on ground and upper floors => approx. 75 sqm (800 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? => family use
Open or closed architecture => kitchen open, otherwise closed
Conservative or modern construction => modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island => yes, open kitchen (cooking area free-standing on at least three sides)
Number of dining seats => 6–8
Fireplace => yes, Swedish stove
Music/sound system wall => yes
Balcony, roof terrace => no
Garage, carport => yes, garage, carport, and parking space
Utility garden, greenhouse => no
House Design
Planned by:
- DIY by us (after discussions with various builders/prefabricated house suppliers)
What do you like most?:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
What do you dislike or want to improve?:
Carport Location
- originally planned to place the garage and carport directly next to the house → to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house needs to be placed as far north as possible
=> now we don’t see the carport in front of the house as negatively because it acts as a barrier to the street (about 600 vehicles per day), but a location directly next to the house would be preferable (although this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window Arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the placement of the couch by the terrace windows is still unclear; currently, the couch stands directly in front of the windows
- adding skylights (in bedrooms and stairway area) is still under consideration
Ground Floor
- the living room width of 4 m (13 ft) might be too narrow and could feel “corridor-like”
- currently no storage room on the ground floor
Upper Floor
- storage room currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at present)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
- around 300–350 thousand EUR
Personal price limit for the house including fittings:
- 350 thousand EUR (absolute maximum)
Preferred heating technology:
- gas boiler/solar vs. heat pump (air/water)
If you have to compromise, which details/features could you
… give up:
- storage room on the upper floor
… not give up:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
Thank you very much for your input!
Hello,
I don’t see the carport as a problem now since it creates a kind of courtyard that could be nicely used as a (privacy-shielded) breakfast terrace.
Nevertheless, I would take your own concerns as a reason to reconsider the entire plan.
Also, the kitchen path to the terrace is too long, a storage room on the ground floor for cleaning supplies is urgently needed, and the hallway on the upper floor feels too narrow.
Well, then there are some smaller details (door positions, for example, or the staircase, which seems to be just a placeholder but is too narrow), but above all you should consider the knee wall height: according to the elevation, it doesn’t look very high, which may make access to the bed or toilet difficult.
Best regards,
Yvonne
Project_IV schrieb:
What do you dislike/What still needs improvement?:
Carport layout
- originally planned to position the garage and carport directly next to the house -> but to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house must be placed as far north as possible
=> by now, we no longer see the carport in front of the house as entirely negative, since it acts as a buffer from the street (about 600 vehicles per day), however, a location immediately next to the house would still be preferable (but this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the sofa arrangement in the area of the terrace-facing windows is not yet clear, currently the sofa is placed right in front of the windows
- installation of roof windows (in the bedroom areas or near the stairwell) is still under discussion
Ground floor
- the living room may be too narrow at 4 m (13 feet) wide and could appear hallway-like
- currently there is no storage room on the ground floor
Upper floor
- storage room is currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at the moment)
I don’t see the carport as a problem now since it creates a kind of courtyard that could be nicely used as a (privacy-shielded) breakfast terrace.
Nevertheless, I would take your own concerns as a reason to reconsider the entire plan.
Also, the kitchen path to the terrace is too long, a storage room on the ground floor for cleaning supplies is urgently needed, and the hallway on the upper floor feels too narrow.
Well, then there are some smaller details (door positions, for example, or the staircase, which seems to be just a placeholder but is too narrow), but above all you should consider the knee wall height: according to the elevation, it doesn’t look very high, which may make access to the bed or toilet difficult.
Best regards,
Yvonne
The likely unsuitable roof pitch affecting the usability of the rooms below also caught my attention right away.
Assuming the site plan is oriented to true north, I would suggest positioning the second children's bedroom more towards the south.
The staircase is too narrow and not suitable. Where is the wardrobe? The upstairs hallway with a rough construction width of 96 cm (38 inches) is definitely too narrow.
The kitchen layout is very impractical. The path from the kitchen to the terrace, passing by the stove, seems especially inconvenient when you have children. The dining table might be too close to the stove, which can emit quite a bit of heat when in use.
Assuming the site plan is oriented to true north, I would suggest positioning the second children's bedroom more towards the south.
The staircase is too narrow and not suitable. Where is the wardrobe? The upstairs hallway with a rough construction width of 96 cm (38 inches) is definitely too narrow.
The kitchen layout is very impractical. The path from the kitchen to the terrace, passing by the stove, seems especially inconvenient when you have children. The dining table might be too close to the stove, which can emit quite a bit of heat when in use.
Functional standard floor plan without surprises.
The hallway on the upper floor also feels too narrow to me. I don’t like those tiny distribution corridors on upper floors. It just makes everything feel cramped.
As already mentioned, the bed is probably positioned quite poorly. How wide is the walk-in closet?
The bathroom should work if a skylight is installed above the toilet – we have the same setup.
I would also add a small window in the wardrobe area in front of the toilet. And another one near the staircase to provide more natural light to the upper floor. Possibly a skylight above the stairwell.
I’m not very fond of the windows in the living-dining area either. Having terrace access behind or directly next to the sofa doesn’t work at all. I would put double terrace doors both at the dining table and in the middle of the room, and just a double window behind the sofa. I would also shift the terrace door on the left further towards the top of the plan.
In general, I would mirror the entire floor plan if you want to place the terrace on the left side. I find it more practical to have terrace access from the dining area rather than from the living area.
Otherwise, the door positions are not yet finalized – but these are minor details.
The hallway on the upper floor also feels too narrow to me. I don’t like those tiny distribution corridors on upper floors. It just makes everything feel cramped.
As already mentioned, the bed is probably positioned quite poorly. How wide is the walk-in closet?
The bathroom should work if a skylight is installed above the toilet – we have the same setup.
I would also add a small window in the wardrobe area in front of the toilet. And another one near the staircase to provide more natural light to the upper floor. Possibly a skylight above the stairwell.
I’m not very fond of the windows in the living-dining area either. Having terrace access behind or directly next to the sofa doesn’t work at all. I would put double terrace doors both at the dining table and in the middle of the room, and just a double window behind the sofa. I would also shift the terrace door on the left further towards the top of the plan.
In general, I would mirror the entire floor plan if you want to place the terrace on the left side. I find it more practical to have terrace access from the dining area rather than from the living area.
Otherwise, the door positions are not yet finalized – but these are minor details.
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Project_IV25 Aug 2015 22:23Hello everyone,
Thank you very much for your feedback. Based on your input, we have given it further thought, which has resulted in the following new floor plan for the ground floor (see attachment).
Here is a brief summary of the changes:
- The study has been mirrored.
- The kitchen is now closer to the terrace, and the living room is closer to the garden.
- There is now a very nice corner in the living room for the sofa and TV/sound system wall (previously there was a conflict with the terrace access).
=> It is still unclear whether another window is needed on the north side of the living room (probably not feasible due to the garage).
However, the ideal layout of the remaining ground floor area is not yet completely decided. The exact arrangement of the staircase, front door, wardrobe, and guest toilet is still open (a storage room is also missing). Since the staircase is likely to be placed behind the wall facing the living room, the front door will be further away from the garage (which would mean the covered area from the garage to the front door needs to be larger).
The impact of all these changes on the upper floor has not been shown yet. That will come in a second step.
The compass (on the documents) has been slightly adjusted to ensure the orientation is now correct.
We would be grateful for any further advice.
Thank you very much for your feedback. Based on your input, we have given it further thought, which has resulted in the following new floor plan for the ground floor (see attachment).
Here is a brief summary of the changes:
- The study has been mirrored.
- The kitchen is now closer to the terrace, and the living room is closer to the garden.
- There is now a very nice corner in the living room for the sofa and TV/sound system wall (previously there was a conflict with the terrace access).
=> It is still unclear whether another window is needed on the north side of the living room (probably not feasible due to the garage).
However, the ideal layout of the remaining ground floor area is not yet completely decided. The exact arrangement of the staircase, front door, wardrobe, and guest toilet is still open (a storage room is also missing). Since the staircase is likely to be placed behind the wall facing the living room, the front door will be further away from the garage (which would mean the covered area from the garage to the front door needs to be larger).
The impact of all these changes on the upper floor has not been shown yet. That will come in a second step.
The compass (on the documents) has been slightly adjusted to ensure the orientation is now correct.
We would be grateful for any further advice.
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