Hello,
we have submitted our building application for our single-family house with a (separate) double garage (5.85m x 8.94m (19.2 ft x 29.3 ft)).
The double garage is made with steel panel construction, so it is a prefabricated steel garage.
State: Brandenburg.
The garage is planned to be built with one side (8.94m (29.3 ft)) directly on the property boundary.
The problem now is that, according to the Brandenburg garage regulations, this wall (boundary wall) must be a fire wall!!
This is not the case with our prefabricated steel garage.
At least, this is what our building regulations officer is currently pointing out...
The garage company has already installed several of these garages, also nearby, and they are hearing about this issue for the first time.
Other customers never included their garage in their building application process, so they never had problems here.
Now my question is, can this be true?
What should I do?
Upgrade the one wall into a fire wall – which apparently requires a 24cm (9.4 in) thick wall?
Remove the garage from the building application and then simply install it afterwards?
As far as I know, the garage is basically permit-exempt.
Has anyone experienced similar problems before?
Regards
we have submitted our building application for our single-family house with a (separate) double garage (5.85m x 8.94m (19.2 ft x 29.3 ft)).
The double garage is made with steel panel construction, so it is a prefabricated steel garage.
State: Brandenburg.
The garage is planned to be built with one side (8.94m (29.3 ft)) directly on the property boundary.
The problem now is that, according to the Brandenburg garage regulations, this wall (boundary wall) must be a fire wall!!
This is not the case with our prefabricated steel garage.
At least, this is what our building regulations officer is currently pointing out...
The garage company has already installed several of these garages, also nearby, and they are hearing about this issue for the first time.
Other customers never included their garage in their building application process, so they never had problems here.
Now my question is, can this be true?
What should I do?
Upgrade the one wall into a fire wall – which apparently requires a 24cm (9.4 in) thick wall?
Remove the garage from the building application and then simply install it afterwards?
As far as I know, the garage is basically permit-exempt.
Has anyone experienced similar problems before?
Regards
B
Bauexperte15 Jun 2015 11:42Kuddel84 schrieb:
Oh, and just because your garage manufacturer has that, everyone else must have it too!Yes, every provider of prefabricated garages.Kuddel84 schrieb:
And if the garage is built as owner’s work, of course the architect from the house building company calculates the structural design, signs it, and is then responsible for it.That’s not your concern and seems completely far-fetched!I have seen more sensible wordings from users who are genuinely seeking answers….
Best regards, Bauexperte
Link with a reference was sent, but you have to be extremely careful in these cases to match the correct commentary with the appropriate law. Musketier linked the Bavarian version, which does not have to be identical to the Brandenburg one and, as far as I have checked, it is not.
This ranges from the Federal Building Code through the respective state building regulations (Landesbauordnung), specific stipulations within the development area, down to case-by-case decisions – and this is generally not something to be resolved here in the forum, but only with the assistance of local experts, meaning: the building authority, architect, or a publicly appointed surveyor.
Best regards
Dirk Grafe
This ranges from the Federal Building Code through the respective state building regulations (Landesbauordnung), specific stipulations within the development area, down to case-by-case decisions – and this is generally not something to be resolved here in the forum, but only with the assistance of local experts, meaning: the building authority, architect, or a publicly appointed surveyor.
Best regards
Dirk Grafe
Kuddel84 schrieb:
Musketier linked the Bavarian version, which does not have to be identical to the Brandenburg one That is correct. However, the wording in both regulations was identical. I had checked that beforehand. Although it contradicts any logic, different explanations for the two regulations can exist despite having the same legal text, but unfortunately, that is true.
Thank you both for the link!
I came across this image a few days ago while searching online.
According to the image, for small garages under 100sqm (1,076 sq ft) with a storage room under 20sqm (215 sq ft), a fire wall is not required; instead, the wall must be made of non-combustible materials.
Unfortunately, Brandenburg seems to interpret this differently, and here the 20sqm (215 sq ft) applies to both the garage and the storage room combined.
I’m not very hopeful that I can persuade the official with the image.
In short, the garage company is now being asked. I’m looking forward to their response, which I expect by tomorrow afternoon at the latest.
I came across this image a few days ago while searching online.
According to the image, for small garages under 100sqm (1,076 sq ft) with a storage room under 20sqm (215 sq ft), a fire wall is not required; instead, the wall must be made of non-combustible materials.
Unfortunately, Brandenburg seems to interpret this differently, and here the 20sqm (215 sq ft) applies to both the garage and the storage room combined.
I’m not very hopeful that I can persuade the official with the image.
In short, the garage company is now being asked. I’m looking forward to their response, which I expect by tomorrow afternoon at the latest.
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