Hi,
I have a budget of about 170,000 euros for a fully finished, move-in-ready house. I can install the electrical wiring and plumbing myself, and I also plan to do the drywall and tile or flooring installation on my own.
My uncle can install the windows for me, if that would significantly reduce the price.
The plot of land is already owned and does not need to be considered.
What is important to me:
Ground floor:
Open-plan living, dining, and kitchen area (with a corner layout)
Separate entrance hall (completely enclosed with a small entry area including a chest of drawers; staircase located within the entrance hall to avoid cold air spreading downstairs or upstairs)
Guest toilet with shower
Study (which could later be converted into a bedroom if needed, for example, when it becomes difficult to use the stairs in old age)
Utility room or storage room
Upper floor:
2 children's bedrooms
Master bedroom with an adjacent walk-in closet area or wardrobe niche
Bathroom with a shower, bathtub, and double sink
The house should have a full basement.
Basement:
Heating room
Laundry room (preferably adjacent to the heating room)
Storage room
An empty room for a potential workshop or hobby room
Would I be better off with a prefabricated timber frame house, or can I afford a solid masonry house?
My uncle will also provide a custom-made kitchen for material costs only. I would only need to buy the appliances.
I just want a solid house with decent features, nothing like a luxury villa.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Michael
I have a budget of about 170,000 euros for a fully finished, move-in-ready house. I can install the electrical wiring and plumbing myself, and I also plan to do the drywall and tile or flooring installation on my own.
My uncle can install the windows for me, if that would significantly reduce the price.
The plot of land is already owned and does not need to be considered.
What is important to me:
Ground floor:
Open-plan living, dining, and kitchen area (with a corner layout)
Separate entrance hall (completely enclosed with a small entry area including a chest of drawers; staircase located within the entrance hall to avoid cold air spreading downstairs or upstairs)
Guest toilet with shower
Study (which could later be converted into a bedroom if needed, for example, when it becomes difficult to use the stairs in old age)
Utility room or storage room
Upper floor:
2 children's bedrooms
Master bedroom with an adjacent walk-in closet area or wardrobe niche
Bathroom with a shower, bathtub, and double sink
The house should have a full basement.
Basement:
Heating room
Laundry room (preferably adjacent to the heating room)
Storage room
An empty room for a potential workshop or hobby room
Would I be better off with a prefabricated timber frame house, or can I afford a solid masonry house?
My uncle will also provide a custom-made kitchen for material costs only. I would only need to buy the appliances.
I just want a solid house with decent features, nothing like a luxury villa.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Michael
trabbifan schrieb:
I don’t think the differences between construction companies are as significant as those between plots of land. As mentioned before, plots can range from €50 per square meter (approximately $54 per square yard) up to €500 or more, but I don’t believe the same house costs ten times more in different regions since labor and materials are the same. That’s correct. In some places, land prices are now approaching 1,000 euros per square meter (approximately $108 per square yard). Construction costs might vary by about 10 to 20%. While incomes in the lowest wage groups in the private sector fluctuate the most, the variation is still not as extreme, and equipment, most materials, and building components generally cost the same throughout Germany.
trabbifan schrieb:
To the original poster, we recently started planning and already have a concrete offer from company Demos. It doesn’t include any owner contributions, but the house is fully basemented, around €250,000 (approximately $270,000), maybe a bit more, as we’re still considering some special customizations. Without information about the specifications and size, it’s impossible to make a comparison. Even for the same floor area, construction costs can easily differ by 100%. This is actually why southern regions are more expensive, because compact building is costlier than simply erecting a standard, non-basement house from a catalog.ypg schrieb:
Please do not compare apples and oranges. Land prices depend on the location and are usually similar within that area without significant price variations.
The same house also costs about the same. That is true. However, the discussion was about regional differences. A mid-range location on the outskirts of Stuttgart costs 5 to 10 times as much as a mid-range location on the outskirts of Magdeburg.
In the current market, in my experience, land prices can fluctuate more than usual even in theoretically comparable locations within the same region. In addition, demographic and social trends play a role. The shift towards cycling and public transport, as well as the increased demand for smaller apartments, has disrupted the market quite a bit.
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Bieber081527 May 2015 18:40maximax schrieb:
And a mid-level location on the outskirts of Stuttgart costs 5 to 10 times more than a mid-level location on the outskirts of Magdeburg.The latter is currently priced at 100 to 130 euros per square meter (approximately 9 to 12 USD per square foot) or 65 to 80 euros per square meter (approximately 6 to 7 USD per square foot) in the floodplain area. Is the outskirts of Stuttgart really that expensive? (But anyway, the principle holds!)In our region of Lower Saxony, prices are already quite affordable, definitely much better than in Bavaria.
But for 170,000 € you won’t get a house with a basement, even with a lot of DIY work.
A self-build house (masonry work done by yourself) with a lot of own contribution and the room layout you want will start at around 110,000 €. Building a basement yourself won’t cost less than 30,000 €. Additional construction costs (including house connections) are about 40,000 €, so you’ve already exceeded the 170,000 € budget.
And that’s not all:
- Interior finishing materials
- Paving/outdoor landscaping materials
- Construction electricity/water
- Authorities (building permit / planning permission or notification?)
- Kitchen
- Furnishing
It doesn’t seem possible to get a house with a basement for under 200,000 € there, even if you do the masonry yourself.
It’s best to start with a rough cost plan and see how the individual items add up. Then you should get quotes for houses with different levels of finishing; this way you quickly get an idea of the price range.
Price information from forums might not help much. Even in our region, the price range for the same design varied by 60,000 €. Regional comparison is the only way— but that only makes sense if you already have your house design and know what kind of systems you want and which tasks you’ll do yourself.
But for 170,000 € you won’t get a house with a basement, even with a lot of DIY work.
A self-build house (masonry work done by yourself) with a lot of own contribution and the room layout you want will start at around 110,000 €. Building a basement yourself won’t cost less than 30,000 €. Additional construction costs (including house connections) are about 40,000 €, so you’ve already exceeded the 170,000 € budget.
And that’s not all:
- Interior finishing materials
- Paving/outdoor landscaping materials
- Construction electricity/water
- Authorities (building permit / planning permission or notification?)
- Kitchen
- Furnishing
It doesn’t seem possible to get a house with a basement for under 200,000 € there, even if you do the masonry yourself.
It’s best to start with a rough cost plan and see how the individual items add up. Then you should get quotes for houses with different levels of finishing; this way you quickly get an idea of the price range.
Price information from forums might not help much. Even in our region, the price range for the same design varied by 60,000 €. Regional comparison is the only way— but that only makes sense if you already have your house design and know what kind of systems you want and which tasks you’ll do yourself.
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