ᐅ Which provider offers KfW 70 / house construction for €250,000?
Created on: 24 Apr 2015 00:17
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Hausbau33
Hello everyone,
I’m not even sure where to start 😀, so I’ll just ask openly here 🙂
Which providers are recommended and affordable for building a KfW 70 single-family home? (Southern Germany)
Is it even possible to build or have built a KfW house (4 rooms, about 120sqm (1300 sq ft)) with a basement for around 250,000 euros (including all additional costs, so that only the land and possibly new furniture would need to be added)? Flooring, painting, wallpapering, and other small tasks could be done by myself.
Thank you in advance
I’m not even sure where to start 😀, so I’ll just ask openly here 🙂
Which providers are recommended and affordable for building a KfW 70 single-family home? (Southern Germany)
Is it even possible to build or have built a KfW house (4 rooms, about 120sqm (1300 sq ft)) with a basement for around 250,000 euros (including all additional costs, so that only the land and possibly new furniture would need to be added)? Flooring, painting, wallpapering, and other small tasks could be done by myself.
Thank you in advance
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Hausbau3329 Apr 2015 19:55Is it possible to take the written contract (including cost and scope of work description) with you before signing and have it reviewed by an independent person? (Is this common practice? I would prefer not to buy a pig in a poke.) x.x . From what I understood, the second meeting is supposed to result in a signature more or less, which, to be honest, puts me off quite a bit.
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Bieber081529 Apr 2015 21:06Hausbau33 schrieb:
Is it possible to take the written contract (i.e., costs and scope of work) with you before signing to have it reviewed by an independent party? (Is this common practice? I would rather not buy a pig in a poke.) From what I understood, the second meeting would more or less involve signing the contract, which honestly puts me off. With Massa Haus, it is reportedly exactly as you described (signing at the second meeting; no handing over of documents before signing). After the first meeting, we ended our contact with Massa Haus.This is not common practice; there are many other builders who handle this differently.
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Username_wahl29 Apr 2015 21:09Hausbau33 schrieb:
From what I understood, the second appointment was supposed to involve more or less signing something, which honestly puts me off quite a bit.I definitely wouldn’t do that. Take plenty of time and, if necessary, get independent advice beforehand, for example from a builders’ protection association, a private homeowners’ association, or similar.Considering that we were in discussions with our general contractor for over a year (about 12 to 15 meetings), and after reviewing the documents, we requested further changes to the contract, only signing it one month before construction started (at which point the house was fully calculated and planned, and the building permit / planning permission was already approved), I would generally say:
Anyone who expects a signature by the second meeting and does not allow for prior document review should be approached very cautiously.
Just my opinion – but maybe my contractor is more of the exception. Everyone else I spoke to beforehand wanted a signature before the planning phase started (though not necessarily by the second meeting).
PS: My contractor does not work in your area.
Anyone who expects a signature by the second meeting and does not allow for prior document review should be approached very cautiously.
Just my opinion – but maybe my contractor is more of the exception. Everyone else I spoke to beforehand wanted a signature before the planning phase started (though not necessarily by the second meeting).
PS: My contractor does not work in your area.
We contacted 8 or 9 different suppliers. All of them sent us an offer including a description of the construction services and additional information. Two of them even brought their independent architect to the meetings, who then created a draft design shortly afterwards. We decided on one of these, but we only signed the contract once we needed to finalize our schedule. The prefabricated house supplier, of course, said they could only include us in the production schedule once they had a signed contract. But I’m not willing to sign anything without having all the necessary information first.
After all, this isn’t just a doghouse we’re building here—this involves mid six-figure amounts...
After all, this isn’t just a doghouse we’re building here—this involves mid six-figure amounts...
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MünchnerKindl30 Apr 2015 12:28I would never sign during the second appointment. Some providers are reluctant to share the detailed scope of work – this was a deal-breaker for us because we wanted to know exactly what we would be getting in the end.
We met the sellers at least three times, some even more often – especially those who were in our final selection.
I wouldn’t let myself be pressured with a contract of this scale. Our sales representative said she would only enter into price negotiations once she was certain we would buy from her. In the end, we received the final price two days before signing the contract. Since she is an architect, we also finalized the floor plan before signing. We could have still made changes, but we chose not to since the floor plan was developed together.
As Uwe says, it’s a lot of money.
We met the sellers at least three times, some even more often – especially those who were in our final selection.
I wouldn’t let myself be pressured with a contract of this scale. Our sales representative said she would only enter into price negotiations once she was certain we would buy from her. In the end, we received the final price two days before signing the contract. Since she is an architect, we also finalized the floor plan before signing. We could have still made changes, but we chose not to since the floor plan was developed together.
As Uwe says, it’s a lot of money.
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