ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, approximately 200 sqm without a basement – assessment
Created on: 14 Dec 2014 10:37
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Slammer0909
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
ypg schrieb:
Living space and garage: either more expensive, or the architect has a completely different (more cost-effective) way to integrate a party room. Well, then I’ll take 5 of them since they are so cost-effective. No, no, there’s no magic here. The room must be dry, have heating, a restroom—with plumbing—insulation, plastered walls, flooring, windows, etc.—and we’re not even talking about painting or wallpapering yet, since the original poster might do that themselves. A roof is needed, structural calculations, building permit/planning permission… if this can be done for less than 1200 EUR per m² (about $130 per sq ft), I’d like to have the contact details of that builder.
@kaho674, the original poster mentions groundwater, but if you consider the size of the auxiliary building "double garage+" and calculate accordingly, maybe a house with a basement is comparatively more cost-effective?
As I understand it, the original poster sets requirements for the experts, which means some options are not being presented to them.
As I understand it, the original poster sets requirements for the experts, which means some options are not being presented to them.
ypg schrieb:
@kaho674, the original poster mentions groundwater, but if you consider the size of the outbuilding "double garage+" and do the math: maybe a house with a basement could actually be relatively more cost-effective? Well, that's possible. However, I don’t see which rooms would all go into the basement? Okay, the utilities and maybe the bike storage, but the rest? A party in the basement? Nah. Guests in the basement? That’s awkward. Laundry room? Too much running back and forth – no thanks. But: the cars! YES! That’s something I would definitely consider. With groundwater, you install a waterproof tank or shell. Then you immediately have much more garden space – yippee! And for partying, I’d rather use the living room! You can also have a great barbecue in the garden and keep the party going….
ypg schrieb:
Maybe you should read through the thread again, @kaho674, if you plan to keep posting here? Why, do I need permission?
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Slammer09093 Feb 2015 15:34Hello,
A lot has happened here.
Thanks for the new design; I’ll take a look at it tonight.
The garage could possibly be a bit smaller, that’s true. As for the house, I’d like it that way, but I’m not quite sure where I could reduce the size.
Regarding the wooden fence: We generally prefer not to focus only on the 3m (10 feet) strip behind the house when looking out of the kitchen, regardless of the type of planting there!
Therefore, the kitchen is on the west side.
One argument for having the kitchen on the east side is that it’s brighter in the morning. I could imagine the kitchen on the east if it is placed entirely on the south side, so you can access the terrace directly from there.
So basically, a mirrored layout with the kitchen at the top and the living room below.
But, who would have thought, there is also something about that that bothers me. Namely, with the sofa all the way to the west “almost facing the street.”
If there is a large window there, you would always have to close everything up during the dark season so people can’t watch you sitting on the sofa.
I don’t understand the fuss about the house being too large, even though my price estimate is already quite high. I would like to look at where I can save costs. But I know plenty of people/families who have similar houses, with an additional room in the garage, etc.
The price of 290,000 was only for the house. The garage downstairs is supposed to cost 570,000 and the upstairs development 310,000. That’s quite a hefty sum.
What would you estimate the savings to be if I exclude the painting and wallpapering from the 290,000€ turnkey house costs?
I plan to do those myself.
Can someone tell me roughly how much that would save?
Let me put it this way, looking at my last blue design (with the narrow corridor between the guest toilet and utility room):
If I now skip the kitchen island and the 2m (6.5 feet) bench seating, and instead have an L-shaped kitchen with a corner bench of about 1.3m x 1.7m (4.3 feet x 5.6 feet), then the entire house could be “easily” shortened by roughly 50cm to 1m (around 1.6 to 3 feet) from east to west.
The guest toilet would become shorter, the kitchen narrower, but the living room could stay the same length.
1m x 12m length (3 feet x 39 feet) equals 12 square meters (129 square feet), plus the upper floor would add another 12 square meters (129 square feet).
So the house would be about 20 square meters (215 square feet) smaller, which at 1,300€ per square meter would be 26,000€.
However, you can’t really calculate the “1m narrower” like that. Because I still need the same heating, light switches, and windows. There would be fewer tiles, fewer small wall sections, wallpaper, and ceiling work, but would that really save that much in relation to the smaller space requirements?
A lot has happened here.
Thanks for the new design; I’ll take a look at it tonight.
The garage could possibly be a bit smaller, that’s true. As for the house, I’d like it that way, but I’m not quite sure where I could reduce the size.
Regarding the wooden fence: We generally prefer not to focus only on the 3m (10 feet) strip behind the house when looking out of the kitchen, regardless of the type of planting there!
Therefore, the kitchen is on the west side.
One argument for having the kitchen on the east side is that it’s brighter in the morning. I could imagine the kitchen on the east if it is placed entirely on the south side, so you can access the terrace directly from there.
So basically, a mirrored layout with the kitchen at the top and the living room below.
But, who would have thought, there is also something about that that bothers me. Namely, with the sofa all the way to the west “almost facing the street.”
If there is a large window there, you would always have to close everything up during the dark season so people can’t watch you sitting on the sofa.
I don’t understand the fuss about the house being too large, even though my price estimate is already quite high. I would like to look at where I can save costs. But I know plenty of people/families who have similar houses, with an additional room in the garage, etc.
The price of 290,000 was only for the house. The garage downstairs is supposed to cost 570,000 and the upstairs development 310,000. That’s quite a hefty sum.
What would you estimate the savings to be if I exclude the painting and wallpapering from the 290,000€ turnkey house costs?
I plan to do those myself.
Can someone tell me roughly how much that would save?
Let me put it this way, looking at my last blue design (with the narrow corridor between the guest toilet and utility room):
If I now skip the kitchen island and the 2m (6.5 feet) bench seating, and instead have an L-shaped kitchen with a corner bench of about 1.3m x 1.7m (4.3 feet x 5.6 feet), then the entire house could be “easily” shortened by roughly 50cm to 1m (around 1.6 to 3 feet) from east to west.
The guest toilet would become shorter, the kitchen narrower, but the living room could stay the same length.
1m x 12m length (3 feet x 39 feet) equals 12 square meters (129 square feet), plus the upper floor would add another 12 square meters (129 square feet).
So the house would be about 20 square meters (215 square feet) smaller, which at 1,300€ per square meter would be 26,000€.
However, you can’t really calculate the “1m narrower” like that. Because I still need the same heating, light switches, and windows. There would be fewer tiles, fewer small wall sections, wallpaper, and ceiling work, but would that really save that much in relation to the smaller space requirements?
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