ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, approximately 200 sqm without a basement – assessment
Created on: 14 Dec 2014 10:37
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Slammer0909
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
Well... ironing in a separate room would also require a TV connection, otherwise ironing would be unbearably boring. I also wonder what else is supposed to happen in the 13 sqm (140 sq ft) utility room upstairs.
And in general... my external dimensions match yours, it’s just that some rooms are larger and therefore more spacious. For example, the bedroom upstairs in your plan has a structural size of just 300 cm (10 ft). If you place a bed there with a frame at least 210 cm (7 ft) long and mount a TV console on the opposite wall, you’re left with only about 70 to 80 cm (28 to 31 inches) for passage and no additional storage options. (You found 80 cm (31 inches) passage too narrow in the storage room.) In my version, the master bedroom is about 390 cm (13 ft) wide. There’s still room for a row of dressers opposite the bed for all the small items like underwear, socks, jewelry, etc., with the TV on top, and the passage width will be around 120 to 130 cm (47 to 51 inches).
Also, with the door to the bedroom when opened, you block access to the walk-in closet. Very impractical if you’re carrying freshly ironed laundry around the corner to hang it up inside the closet. As you can see, I have paid attention to many small details. Maybe that’s because I probably have at least 20 more years of living experience than you.
Take another close look at my plans... I included plenty of storage space, for example in the hallway (under the stairs in front of the guest room), and so on. Overall, there is always storage where it’s actually useful.
A kitchen of 20 sqm (215 sq ft) is not necessarily more spacious than one of 16 sqm (172 sq ft). It really depends on the room layout. In your version, about 3 to 4 sqm (32 to 43 sq ft) is just an entry area with no real function.
Have you actually discussed the costs yet?
And in general... my external dimensions match yours, it’s just that some rooms are larger and therefore more spacious. For example, the bedroom upstairs in your plan has a structural size of just 300 cm (10 ft). If you place a bed there with a frame at least 210 cm (7 ft) long and mount a TV console on the opposite wall, you’re left with only about 70 to 80 cm (28 to 31 inches) for passage and no additional storage options. (You found 80 cm (31 inches) passage too narrow in the storage room.) In my version, the master bedroom is about 390 cm (13 ft) wide. There’s still room for a row of dressers opposite the bed for all the small items like underwear, socks, jewelry, etc., with the TV on top, and the passage width will be around 120 to 130 cm (47 to 51 inches).
Also, with the door to the bedroom when opened, you block access to the walk-in closet. Very impractical if you’re carrying freshly ironed laundry around the corner to hang it up inside the closet. As you can see, I have paid attention to many small details. Maybe that’s because I probably have at least 20 more years of living experience than you.
Take another close look at my plans... I included plenty of storage space, for example in the hallway (under the stairs in front of the guest room), and so on. Overall, there is always storage where it’s actually useful.
A kitchen of 20 sqm (215 sq ft) is not necessarily more spacious than one of 16 sqm (172 sq ft). It really depends on the room layout. In your version, about 3 to 4 sqm (32 to 43 sq ft) is just an entry area with no real function.
Have you actually discussed the costs yet?
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Slammer090927 Jan 2015 20:54Yes, I can return the compliment. If 80cm (31 inches) is completely sufficient, then it works for the bedroom as well!
On one hand, you think it’s enough, but on the other hand, you criticize it elsewhere.
However, I understand what you mean about the bedroom (BU design).
In the plan, there is still well over 1m (39 inches) between the closets in the walk-in closet. The walk-in closet is supposed to be narrower to make room for the bedroom. So the upper floor in the BU plan is definitely not finalized.
The entire hallway has shifted too far upward in my opinion. It needs to move back down, which will also make the upstairs kids’ room larger. As a result, the walk-in closet can become narrower and shift southward to give more space to the bedroom. You should refer more to the dimensions in my plan.
The dimension will then be 3.5m (11 feet 6 inches). So, a dresser with a depth of 50cm (20 inches) can still fit there.
Your 2m (6 feet 6 inches) line seems somewhat different from the one in the BU plan. But okay, not the whole room is obscured, just half. As I said, even without sloped ceilings, it feels too small to us.
We don’t have a price yet. At the start of the planning process, he said €1300 per square meter. The garage, of course, costs less.
You end up with about 25sqm (270 sq ft) for the upper-floor bedroom, and so do I (not the BU design). The kids’ rooms are about 20sqm (215 sq ft) for both of us as well. The bathroom is bigger in my plan, as is the laundry room—even though my hallway is more generous. Overall, I still have more usable space in the rooms!
So, I’m not doing badly overall. It’s always just a redistribution of the usable floor area. Since we also value the secondary rooms, as I mentioned, a compromise is necessary—unless you add another 50sqm (540 sq ft), but then it won’t be affordable anymore.
On the ground floor, our rooms aren’t significantly different in size, nor are mine noticeably smaller or more awkwardly shaped.
But regarding the sloped ceilings:
I’m afraid that in my plan, with the staircase by the bathroom on the upper floor, the door to the laundry room won’t actually fit. Also, much of the laundry room space there is under a slope... That remains a real challenge, besides the fact that I think the angled hallway is pretty cool.
On one hand, you think it’s enough, but on the other hand, you criticize it elsewhere.
However, I understand what you mean about the bedroom (BU design).
In the plan, there is still well over 1m (39 inches) between the closets in the walk-in closet. The walk-in closet is supposed to be narrower to make room for the bedroom. So the upper floor in the BU plan is definitely not finalized.
The entire hallway has shifted too far upward in my opinion. It needs to move back down, which will also make the upstairs kids’ room larger. As a result, the walk-in closet can become narrower and shift southward to give more space to the bedroom. You should refer more to the dimensions in my plan.
The dimension will then be 3.5m (11 feet 6 inches). So, a dresser with a depth of 50cm (20 inches) can still fit there.
Your 2m (6 feet 6 inches) line seems somewhat different from the one in the BU plan. But okay, not the whole room is obscured, just half. As I said, even without sloped ceilings, it feels too small to us.
We don’t have a price yet. At the start of the planning process, he said €1300 per square meter. The garage, of course, costs less.
You end up with about 25sqm (270 sq ft) for the upper-floor bedroom, and so do I (not the BU design). The kids’ rooms are about 20sqm (215 sq ft) for both of us as well. The bathroom is bigger in my plan, as is the laundry room—even though my hallway is more generous. Overall, I still have more usable space in the rooms!
So, I’m not doing badly overall. It’s always just a redistribution of the usable floor area. Since we also value the secondary rooms, as I mentioned, a compromise is necessary—unless you add another 50sqm (540 sq ft), but then it won’t be affordable anymore.
On the ground floor, our rooms aren’t significantly different in size, nor are mine noticeably smaller or more awkwardly shaped.
But regarding the sloped ceilings:
I’m afraid that in my plan, with the staircase by the bathroom on the upper floor, the door to the laundry room won’t actually fit. Also, much of the laundry room space there is under a slope... That remains a real challenge, besides the fact that I think the angled hallway is pretty cool.
However, there is a difference between having an 80 cm (31.5 inches) passageway in a utility room and having a maximum of 80 cm (31.5 inches) without the possibility of adding extra storage.
And if you are referring to this floor plan of yours for the upper floor:
You should try standing up from the toilet under the sloped ceiling there. All your upper floor variants have some quirks that make their functionality questionable. Also, the utility room you planned in the top left corner in one version—half of it is under the sloped ceiling, etc.
That is why I am currently only referring to the developer’s variations.
Closet room... if you want to have wardrobes with sliding doors, for example Ikea Pax as a typical example, you need to allow at least 66 cm (26 inches) depth for the wardrobes including the sliding doors. Then add about 1 to 2 cm (0.4 to 0.8 inches) clearance from the wall because you can’t install them flush directly on the wall and the walls also have plaster. So, for wardrobes on both sides, that already adds up to approximately 135 cm (53 inches). That’s why I always calculate a minimum width of about 215–220 cm (85–87 inches). Better still 240 cm (94 inches). And why do I calculate more than 80 cm (31.5 inches) for the walkway here? Unlike a storage room where you keep seasonal decorations, rarely used items, etc., you need to enter the dressing room several times a day and want to be able to move comfortably. You might even be dressing in there, so having a bit more space is definitely beneficial.
And if you are referring to this floor plan of yours for the upper floor:
You should try standing up from the toilet under the sloped ceiling there. All your upper floor variants have some quirks that make their functionality questionable. Also, the utility room you planned in the top left corner in one version—half of it is under the sloped ceiling, etc.
That is why I am currently only referring to the developer’s variations.
Closet room... if you want to have wardrobes with sliding doors, for example Ikea Pax as a typical example, you need to allow at least 66 cm (26 inches) depth for the wardrobes including the sliding doors. Then add about 1 to 2 cm (0.4 to 0.8 inches) clearance from the wall because you can’t install them flush directly on the wall and the walls also have plaster. So, for wardrobes on both sides, that already adds up to approximately 135 cm (53 inches). That’s why I always calculate a minimum width of about 215–220 cm (85–87 inches). Better still 240 cm (94 inches). And why do I calculate more than 80 cm (31.5 inches) for the walkway here? Unlike a storage room where you keep seasonal decorations, rarely used items, etc., you need to enter the dressing room several times a day and want to be able to move comfortably. You might even be dressing in there, so having a bit more space is definitely beneficial.
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Slammer090927 Jan 2015 21:15Right, so the toilet needs to be moved a bit to the right. It’s not a big deal since this isn’t a formal submission plan.
Yes, I understand the situation with the closet. But this storage/utility room, which is normally located on the ground floor, is not the case for us. I have already mentioned this several times.
Anyway, whatever the case may be, I will continue to consider it and thank you for your time. It’s getting late, so I won’t keep you any longer.
Best regards
Yes, I understand the situation with the closet. But this storage/utility room, which is normally located on the ground floor, is not the case for us. I have already mentioned this several times.
Anyway, whatever the case may be, I will continue to consider it and thank you for your time. It’s getting late, so I won’t keep you any longer.
Best regards
S
Slammer090927 Jan 2015 21:32Here is the latest version once again:
This is how the kitchen could look, found by chance last Sunday in a brochure:
This is how the kitchen could look, found by chance last Sunday in a brochure:
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