Hello everyone,
Since I have been following this forum for a while and always found the tips and advice very helpful, I would like to present our situation.
We are about to purchase a plot of land and are now considering the best way to position the house on it, given the orientation.
Here is some information about the house as a reference:
We are planning a typical single-story gable-roof house (external dimensions: 9 x 11 m (30 x 36 ft)).
On the ground floor, we have planned an open kitchen, dining, and living area in an L-shape.
Due to the limited building area, we have come up with four variants for the arrangement of the house and carport.
Ideally, the living spaces would face south/west, but this is a bit challenging because of the turning radius towards the south/west.
We would greatly appreciate any feedback on which variant you prefer, including advantages and disadvantages.
Since I have been following this forum for a while and always found the tips and advice very helpful, I would like to present our situation.
We are about to purchase a plot of land and are now considering the best way to position the house on it, given the orientation.
Here is some information about the house as a reference:
We are planning a typical single-story gable-roof house (external dimensions: 9 x 11 m (30 x 36 ft)).
On the ground floor, we have planned an open kitchen, dining, and living area in an L-shape.
Due to the limited building area, we have come up with four variants for the arrangement of the house and carport.
Ideally, the living spaces would face south/west, but this is a bit challenging because of the turning radius towards the south/west.
We would greatly appreciate any feedback on which variant you prefer, including advantages and disadvantages.
Bauexperte schrieb:
Hello,
I assume that the building lines in the property description follow the development plan, which means that none of your proposed options are feasible.
Usually, garages are only approved in the designated section, unless otherwise specified in the written regulations.
You will most likely have to build exactly as shown in the plan; with the gable end facing the turning circle. If I am mistaken, the seller or the planning office should be able to provide information.
Regards, BauexperteThe access to the property is often regulated. Apparently, this is the case here as well. However, for example with corner lots, there are often two possibilities.
I can imagine that there are two options here: one with the garage where it is drawn and another on the southern side toward the adjacent lot.
But the proposed building layout seems reasonable to me... Have I already mentioned that?!
Thanks first of all for the quick feedback and suggestions.
I have attached an excerpt from the development plan again, which shows variant 1 as an example.
To me, the blue lines represent the building envelope.
@ Bauexperte: Accordingly, I should be able to implement the 4 described variants, or have I overlooked something here?
At the moment, we are also favoring V3, as this would allow us to arrange the living spaces on the long side facing south. The kitchen would then be positioned towards the northeast, away from the street/entrance.
With the layout as shown in the exposé, if we use the long side for the living/dining area, the orientation would have to be towards the northeast. We are not yet entirely satisfied with that option.
I have attached an excerpt from the development plan again, which shows variant 1 as an example.
To me, the blue lines represent the building envelope.
@ Bauexperte: Accordingly, I should be able to implement the 4 described variants, or have I overlooked something here?
At the moment, we are also favoring V3, as this would allow us to arrange the living spaces on the long side facing south. The kitchen would then be positioned towards the northeast, away from the street/entrance.
With the layout as shown in the exposé, if we use the long side for the living/dining area, the orientation would have to be towards the northeast. We are not yet entirely satisfied with that option.
Attached is the floor plan as we originally designed it.
For option 3, it could be rotated by 90° and might fit better that way (the entrance and stairs would likely need to be adjusted).
Do you have any suggestions or comments?
With the house layout as shown in the brochure, I feel the room arrangement still lacks a bit of imagination...
For option 3, it could be rotated by 90° and might fit better that way (the entrance and stairs would likely need to be adjusted).
Do you have any suggestions or comments?
With the house layout as shown in the brochure, I feel the room arrangement still lacks a bit of imagination...
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Bauexperte23 Jan 2015 20:34Good evening,
Regards, Bauexperte
DiBu83 schrieb:That is incorrect. The blue lines indicate the boundaries of the entire area designated for construction; the dashed lines mark the boundaries of the individual plots.
For me, the blue lines represent the building envelope.
DiBu83 schrieb:Based on this land use plan, you can build your option "1" – the building envelope is the box below the "12"; the area for the garage/carport is also marked on your plot.
@ Bauexperte: So, I could implement the 4 described options accordingly, or have I missed something here?
Regards, Bauexperte
@ Bauexperte:
Hmm... I can’t quite picture this.
The “thin dashed” line represents the property boundary — yes.
The “thick blue” line, according to the legend, represents the building limit.
The box under the “12” seems to me to show just a possible house option including a carport.
But if that were actually the building envelope, then the layout shown in the brochure wouldn’t be feasible at all, and overall the building envelope would be extremely restricted.
I’m certainly not an expert here, but what is the difference between the “limit of the total area allowed for construction” and a “building envelope”?
Sorry if I’m completely missing something here...
Hmm... I can’t quite picture this.
The “thin dashed” line represents the property boundary — yes.
The “thick blue” line, according to the legend, represents the building limit.
The box under the “12” seems to me to show just a possible house option including a carport.
But if that were actually the building envelope, then the layout shown in the brochure wouldn’t be feasible at all, and overall the building envelope would be extremely restricted.
I’m certainly not an expert here, but what is the difference between the “limit of the total area allowed for construction” and a “building envelope”?
Sorry if I’m completely missing something here...
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Bauexperte23 Jan 2015 21:15Hello,
But as mentioned—I can’t walk on water either. Just ask the seller
The "building envelope" is the part of your lot where you are actually allowed to build.
Regards, Bauexperte
DiBu83 schrieb:According to the attached legend—unfortunately only in black and white—the continuous black line marks the building envelope (building boundary according to § 23 of the land use ordinance). Your current excerpt does not provide an explanation for the dotted/dash/dot and the blue overpainted lines.
The "thick, blue" line stands for the building boundary according to the legend.
But as mentioned—I can’t walk on water either. Just ask the seller
DiBu83 schrieb:The "boundary of the entire area to be built on" defines the whole area designated for construction. So, not only your lot but all lots shown in the site plan.
I’m probably not very familiar with this, but what is the difference between "boundary of the entire area to be built on" and a "building envelope"?
The "building envelope" is the part of your lot where you are actually allowed to build.
Regards, Bauexperte
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