ᐅ Plot for single-family home, preliminary design 170 m²

Created on: 18 Oct 2014 09:26
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Legurit
Hello everyone,

We plan to start building a single-family house next year and are currently brainstorming ideas for the floor plan. What do you think of our current concept?

We are planning for three children and no basement. Since the soil is very damp, we were advised against having a basement (which we actually agree with). Additionally, we are only allowed to build a single-story house.
We found it quite challenging to make the most of the narrow plot: the entrance needs to be at the end of the street, possibly resulting in an L-shaped layout. We also want to build relatively narrow to enlarge the garden. We visited many model home parks and suppliers but found few options that really fit our needs. Of course, we are open to all ideas and suggestions.

Thanks for your feedback. Best regards.
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Legurit
18 Oct 2014 11:43
Yes, the corner is correct – unfortunately a bit more rural. There are a handful of architects, and we have already had discussions with two of them. We have now more or less decided on an independent planner... but I am skeptical whether they will really put passion into it. Of course, a preliminary design from an architect costs €1200 (about $1300) – not a lot, but also not necessarily a guarantee for a good floor plan (I have sifted through numerous posts in the green forum).

The issue with the utility room is that a brine-to-water heat pump is planned, which apparently produces around 45 dB and that noise is not blocked by a door – hence the second wall.

Access to the utility room through the hallway was also considered, as well as swapping the staircase and utility room – but then the utility room was even more prominent, although without the second wall yet. I think I will reconsider that.

In two weeks, it gets serious – the floor plan design will start professionally – until then, I’m trying to internalize all ideas and criticism to assess the results properly.
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Legurit
18 Oct 2014 11:44
I already considered having the entrance on the north side, which would be much simpler since there are already 10,000 usable floor plans from countless providers available – the architects went into a frenzy over that.
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Wanderdüne
18 Oct 2014 12:45
@BeHaElJa:
Nice to see you back. You could have kept your old username (again with a different location indicator, state BB), since your previous thread was really a classic with a lot of heart. (And as legendary as your numbered design drafts in the green forum.)

I really hope that you finally consult a freelance architect. Until then, it’s not about drawing yet another design yourselves, but about figuring out how you want to live.
In the original thread, the dining area in the kitchen was planned for three people, even though you intended it for five. Back then, eating in the kitchen was important to you; now there’s the usual breakfast bar solution, and dining happens in the central hub of the house, which isn’t very cozy. The bedroom access through this hub is similar, and the hallway with laundry runs through dining and cooking areas to reach the utility room.
And when you do finally see an architect, please don’t present your self-made drafts — it only hinders creativity.

WD
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Legurit
18 Oct 2014 12:51
So far, I have never registered here, and we have never had three people in the kitchen at once. There was a draft plan with a table in the kitchen, but it only had seating for four. We are currently living in a rental apartment – how am I supposed to know what my ideal situation should be? I have no idea whether having meals in the living room would bother me or if I would enjoy using the breakfast bar.

As I said, my main goal is to develop a sense of what works well (it seems there is no perfect solution since EVERY design is criticized or dismissed as a "catalog" style – even Houses of the Year or architect-designed homes awarded by Heinze).
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ypg
18 Oct 2014 13:19
BeHaElJa schrieb:
I already considered a north-facing entrance, which would have been much easier since there are already thousands of practical floor plans available from numerous providers – the architects in the green forum ran into a real storm over that.

So is that why you’re planning the entrance on the west side?
Although many architects respond in the green forum (here, there are more users with personal experience), they are not architectural gods. Every architect has their own style, and just because the people there dismiss something doesn’t make it a rule!
And if you mention there that the design is your own creation, even if it’s not obvious, it gets dismissed anyway. As long as they believe the design is from an architect, their responses are polite.

My house was also given the round file over there; “back to square one” was the nicest comment. Still, we’re happy with the room layout and its functionality. Minor issues that bother us probably stem from no one truly engaging with that specific design...

Go to an architect who doesn’t spend all day until 11 p.m. trying to make a name for themselves on the forum! I understand that you enjoy painting (I do too), but then maybe you shouldn’t keep changing the criticism within the same framework, but rather start by changing the framework itself.
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Legurit
18 Oct 2014 13:31
I’ve also noticed that the gentlemen write more in the forum than they actually work – but yes, there’s definitely something to the entrance on the west side. I also find an L-shaped building layout quite charming. I’m just not sure if a long hallway is necessary in that case or if I’m simply doing something wrong. The long architect-designed houses also have long hallways – my parents’ terraced house does too. At my parents’ place, there is a sideboard and the staircase in the hallway.

I’ll see what the planner suggests...