Hello,
we are planning to build a new house with an insulated ground slab, but without underfloor heating because we want to lay industrial parquet flooring throughout, and underfloor heating could cause issues.
At the moment, we are considering a ceiling heating system. Our apartment will have an interior height of 3m (10 feet).
Is ceiling heating alone sufficient for heating? I am still concerned about the absence of underfloor heating and whether this might lead to cold feet.
Do you have any experience with this? I find radiant heat itself very comfortable.
ma
we are planning to build a new house with an insulated ground slab, but without underfloor heating because we want to lay industrial parquet flooring throughout, and underfloor heating could cause issues.
At the moment, we are considering a ceiling heating system. Our apartment will have an interior height of 3m (10 feet).
Is ceiling heating alone sufficient for heating? I am still concerned about the absence of underfloor heating and whether this might lead to cold feet.
Do you have any experience with this? I find radiant heat itself very comfortable.
ma
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frosch0069 Oct 2014 13:47Hello building expert,
please don’t misunderstand me, I didn’t express myself very clearly. The underfloor heating in the bedroom is only turned on during extreme winter conditions, but then it runs over a longer period—not just turned on in the morning and off in the evening. It runs for several days or weeks, but only at a low level. We like to sleep in a cool environment.
ma
please don’t misunderstand me, I didn’t express myself very clearly. The underfloor heating in the bedroom is only turned on during extreme winter conditions, but then it runs over a longer period—not just turned on in the morning and off in the evening. It runs for several days or weeks, but only at a low level. We like to sleep in a cool environment.
ma
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Bauexperte9 Oct 2014 14:18Hello,
Nothing happened.
Cool and cold are two different things. From what I understand, you switch the underfloor heating on quite late. This means a thermal bridge forms to the surrounding rooms, which is compensated by the radiators there.
You need to think of the efficiency of a heating system like a pot of boiling water. To keep the temperature stable and energy-efficient, you first bring the pot to a boil and then adjust the control so the water simmers gently. If you let the water cool down completely each time, you need much more energy to bring it back to a boil. It’s similar with rooms that need heating, which is why once a temperature is set (per room and according to personal preference), it should not be changed frequently, as the required energy demand will be much higher.
Many years ago, when moving into a new single-family house with a neighbor living above us, as usual, we lived in the house for the first two years while it dried out and used quite a lot of gas. The following year, by chance, I spoke to a heating expert about heating costs during initial occupancy. He gave me the good advice to turn off the night setback and let the system run all year round; I would be surprised. I followed his advice, coordinated with the landlord and the neighbor, and was finally able to carry out the experiment. I was really surprised because we saved quite a lot of gas and ended up with a large reimbursement. Since then I have never done it differently; I’m not mad at my money ... and because the heating is never turned off, it responds quickly to any external temperature drop and keeps the house constant at the set temperature.
Best regards, Bauexperte
frosch006 schrieb:
Please don’t misunderstand me, I didn’t express myself very well. The underfloor heating in the bedroom is only turned on during extreme winter, but then it runs continuously over a longer period, not just turned on in the morning and off in the evening. It runs for days or weeks, but only at a low level. We like to sleep cool.
Nothing happened.
Cool and cold are two different things. From what I understand, you switch the underfloor heating on quite late. This means a thermal bridge forms to the surrounding rooms, which is compensated by the radiators there.
You need to think of the efficiency of a heating system like a pot of boiling water. To keep the temperature stable and energy-efficient, you first bring the pot to a boil and then adjust the control so the water simmers gently. If you let the water cool down completely each time, you need much more energy to bring it back to a boil. It’s similar with rooms that need heating, which is why once a temperature is set (per room and according to personal preference), it should not be changed frequently, as the required energy demand will be much higher.
Many years ago, when moving into a new single-family house with a neighbor living above us, as usual, we lived in the house for the first two years while it dried out and used quite a lot of gas. The following year, by chance, I spoke to a heating expert about heating costs during initial occupancy. He gave me the good advice to turn off the night setback and let the system run all year round; I would be surprised. I followed his advice, coordinated with the landlord and the neighbor, and was finally able to carry out the experiment. I was really surprised because we saved quite a lot of gas and ended up with a large reimbursement. Since then I have never done it differently; I’m not mad at my money ... and because the heating is never turned off, it responds quickly to any external temperature drop and keeps the house constant at the set temperature.
Best regards, Bauexperte
I can confirm what the (building expert) said. In our entire house, the (underfloor heating) has all heating circuits open, no individual room control, everything hydraulically balanced, temperature controlled at the return flow based on the outside temperature – and that’s it. The whole heating season, the same temperature throughout the house, day and night (except in the bedroom – here the heating circuit was slightly throttled).
frosch006 schrieb:
...Underfloor heating is still quite slow to respond nowadays. ...But that is intentional and not a problem at all. Nowadays, you don’t just set the temperature from 15 to 24 degrees Celsius (59 to 75°F); instead, you keep a comfortable temperature between 18 and 22 degrees Celsius (64 to 72°F), plus 2 degrees for us women, whichever you prefer.
This uses less energy than constantly raising and lowering the temperature, and when you come home from work, the house is already warm and cozy without having to wait "a quarter of an hour for it to heat up," only to turn it down again later.
We had underfloor heating with tiles and carpet in our 35-year-old house, and we have the same setup now. Two days ago, I nudged the heating to 21 degrees Celsius (70°F) so I wouldn’t have to walk on cold tiles.
I can’t imagine having heating at head height; I don’t even like that in a car.
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Bauexperte10 Oct 2014 11:02Hello,
Regards, Bauexperte
lastdrop schrieb:Most controllers have a small pin that prevents adjustment. When our children were little, we broke this off, and our little ones could turn it as much as they wanted until the end of time.
The temperature controller has been taped over for more than a year so that the children cannot change the temperature.
Regards, Bauexperte
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