Hello,
I have been reading along for some time now and finally dare to share a floor plan here.
First, here is the list of questions:
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 576 sqm (6,200 sq ft)
Slope: Yes, slight. According to the site plan, the top "right" corner is at 295.4 meters (970 feet), lower at 293.88 meters (964 feet), left side goes from 295.17 meters (968 feet) to 293.43 meters (963 feet)
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Applies to house number 16
Surrounding buildings
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 2 full floors required, plus optional recessed floor (setback floor)
Roof type: Flat roof, max. 5° pitch
Maximum height/limits: Max. 10 m (33 ft) high
Additional requirements: Equipment (heat pump) must be integrated, not external. Maximum of 2 residential units. Specific exterior colors required, rainwater should infiltrate (soil report says this is unlikely). Roofs must be greened. No oil or gas heating allowed.
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Actually, none specified.
Basement, floors: No basement, 2 floors.
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people — 2 adults, 2 children
Ground floor space needs: Daily life (living, kitchen, dining, technical room, guest room)
Upper floor: Family (2 children's rooms, master bedroom, separate bathrooms), home office
Office: Home office, second workspace for occasional use such as a work window sill for example in the bedroom
Guests per year: Currently few.
Open or closed architecture, conservative or modern style: Either is fine.
Open kitchen, kitchen island: We are still considering. Initial wish was separate pantry like in the floor plan. An island would be nice if space allows.
Number of dining seats: Normally 4, rarely up to 8.
Fireplace: None.
Music/stereo wall: Multi-room audio with central unit in technical room.
Balcony, roof terrace: Neither.
Garage, carport: 1 garage
Other wishes: Central vacuum system, laundry chute, smart home (KNX) (I am mostly doing this myself, yes, I am a certified electrician, can program, but will also get additional help)
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Planner from a construction company: Correct, with some input from us. Based on an existing plan.
Price estimate by architect/planner: approx. 485,000 € (euros) for the house, approx. 210,000 € for the plot including basic services (survey, soil report, etc.)
Personal price limit for the house including features: approx. 800,000–850,000 € (including land)
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump
If you had to give up, which details/extra features could you skip:
- Could skip:
- Cannot skip:
Why is the design like it is now? For example:
Standard design by the planner? Yes, with minor wishes from us (wall between study and child’s room 2, T-walls in bathrooms, porch roof, conservatory, pantry)
What do you find especially good or bad about it? So far it seems to fit; apart from possibly the pantry/dining room, we don’t see major issues yet. But that’s why I’m here now.
Edit: The furniture shown in the floor plans can be safely ignored. Planners seem to like adding these.
Best regards
Ganneff
I have been reading along for some time now and finally dare to share a floor plan here.
First, here is the list of questions:
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 576 sqm (6,200 sq ft)
Slope: Yes, slight. According to the site plan, the top "right" corner is at 295.4 meters (970 feet), lower at 293.88 meters (964 feet), left side goes from 295.17 meters (968 feet) to 293.43 meters (963 feet)
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Applies to house number 16
Surrounding buildings
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 2 full floors required, plus optional recessed floor (setback floor)
Roof type: Flat roof, max. 5° pitch
Maximum height/limits: Max. 10 m (33 ft) high
Additional requirements: Equipment (heat pump) must be integrated, not external. Maximum of 2 residential units. Specific exterior colors required, rainwater should infiltrate (soil report says this is unlikely). Roofs must be greened. No oil or gas heating allowed.
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Actually, none specified.
Basement, floors: No basement, 2 floors.
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people — 2 adults, 2 children
Ground floor space needs: Daily life (living, kitchen, dining, technical room, guest room)
Upper floor: Family (2 children's rooms, master bedroom, separate bathrooms), home office
Office: Home office, second workspace for occasional use such as a work window sill for example in the bedroom
Guests per year: Currently few.
Open or closed architecture, conservative or modern style: Either is fine.
Open kitchen, kitchen island: We are still considering. Initial wish was separate pantry like in the floor plan. An island would be nice if space allows.
Number of dining seats: Normally 4, rarely up to 8.
Fireplace: None.
Music/stereo wall: Multi-room audio with central unit in technical room.
Balcony, roof terrace: Neither.
Garage, carport: 1 garage
Other wishes: Central vacuum system, laundry chute, smart home (KNX) (I am mostly doing this myself, yes, I am a certified electrician, can program, but will also get additional help)
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Planner from a construction company: Correct, with some input from us. Based on an existing plan.
Price estimate by architect/planner: approx. 485,000 € (euros) for the house, approx. 210,000 € for the plot including basic services (survey, soil report, etc.)
Personal price limit for the house including features: approx. 800,000–850,000 € (including land)
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump
If you had to give up, which details/extra features could you skip:
- Could skip:
- Cannot skip:
Why is the design like it is now? For example:
Standard design by the planner? Yes, with minor wishes from us (wall between study and child’s room 2, T-walls in bathrooms, porch roof, conservatory, pantry)
What do you find especially good or bad about it? So far it seems to fit; apart from possibly the pantry/dining room, we don’t see major issues yet. But that’s why I’m here now.
Edit: The furniture shown in the floor plans can be safely ignored. Planners seem to like adding these.
Best regards
Ganneff
Ganneff schrieb:
(And "outside" here means "towards the hallway," not "into the room" anymore.)Just assuming once, since I'm curious: what do you expect from this – a bit of a hotel or hospital atmosphere at home?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
Just assuming once, I’m curious: what do you expect from this – a bit of a hotel or hospital vibe at home?The space in the hallway for the door is not important to us. It is purely a passage area where no one stays for long and nothing is placed there (above). However, in the rooms, this is space that is no longer blocked by the door.
Ganneff schrieb:
The space in the hallway for the door is not important to us. It’s purely a passage area where no one stays for long and nothing is placed (above). However, in the rooms, it is space that is no longer blocked by the door. The door has a swing radius that is used for entering and exiting. It’s not suitable for placing items within that space.
There is a good reason why doors open inward: it reduces the risk of accidents—while not involving bicycles, it’s similar to the “dooring” accidents experienced by residents when moving around the upper floors. It prevents collisions by keeping the rather narrow shared hallway clear—both when entering and exiting. Let’s just say: Child 2 ends up getting the door swung right into their face by Child 1.
Doors are often left open, and people sometimes walk through the hallway in the dark heading to the restroom.
It is also harder to enter a room because you have to avoid doors that open towards you. You ideally do this inside the room, so the hallway is not blocked.
You are also more likely to catch the door handle while passing through a corridor.
Emergency responders, trying to rescue occupants from fire or other dangers, are not helped by this either. Or in other words, the person needing rescue is adversely affected.
ypg schrieb:
The door has a swing radius used for entering and exiting. It is not suitable for placing furniture. Exactly, that’s why you don’t put anything inside the room within that radius. In the home office it doesn’t matter much since the door is centered in the room. In the bedroom, however, the door is obstructive. And nothing is placed in the hallway, so it’s irrelevant there.
ypg schrieb:
There is a reason doors open inward: it reduces the risk of accidents—not involving bicycles, but similar to dooring accidents with residents moving around on the upper floor. It prevents collisions by keeping the narrow shared hallway area clear, both when entering and exiting. Let’s say: Child 2 could get hit in the face by the door swung open by Child 1. Since one child has a sliding door and the other a hinged door, it doesn’t make a difference in that respect. The hinged door swings both ways anyway.
The children’s bathroom and the home office are the only two spaces where they might run into each other; the bedroom is at the end of the hallway, so that is unlikely.
ypg schrieb:
Emergency responders trying to rescue residents from fire or other dangers are also affected. Or the person to be rescued is hindered here. That is actually the first reason for the change that cannot simply be dismissed.
Fortunately, it’s just about “doors” – if it really proves inconvenient in daily use, it’s a comparatively easy change to make. (The position of switches or room controllers is still the most challenging part, but that can be addressed with preparatory wiring.)
Ganneff schrieb:
In the bedroom, however, the door is a problem.What exactly is the problem with it? Ganneff schrieb:
- if it actually turns out to be a bad idea in everyday use, making a change is relatively straightforward.No, not really. The screed and expansion joint are involved.ypg schrieb:
What is it getting in the way of?Closet. Having the door open outwards provides significantly more space. (No, not completely through, but more than with the door opening inward.)
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