ᐅ Floor Plan Feedback Single-Family Home 140 sqm Two Full Stories
Created on: 4 Jul 2025 16:06
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Milka0105
Hello everyone, following my last post about costs and so on, Ant11 suggested that I start with a floor plan here for evaluation. This plan has now existed for quite some time with a few minor adjustments, so the ideas have not changed. I’m looking forward to some feedback.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 654 sqm (7040 sq ft)
Slope no
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building setback, building line and boundary 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development only garages or carport
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors max 2
Roof pitch 0–48 degrees
Style single-family house
Orientation any
Maximum heights / limits 6 m (20 ft) wall and 9 m (30 ft) total
Other requirements cistern
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type gable roof
Basement, floors 2
Number of people, age 2 adults and potentially 2 children, currently 1
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor
Office: family use or home office? Both
Guest sleeping per year, if so guests sleep in the children’s rooms
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 1
Fireplace no
Music / stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes
Utility garden, greenhouse possible
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included
House Design
Who designed it:
- Initial draft by architect then adjustments with builder/architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Utility room with separate door (mudroom), large pantry
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 433k
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 500k
Preferred heating technology: air heat pump and central ventilation system
If you had to give up, which details / extensions
- Could you give up: if push comes to shove, the separate door for the utility room or the pantry could be omitted
- Could you not give up: guest WC with shower
Why did the design turn out the way it did? For example:
Build as small as possible but as large as necessary. The plot becomes wider toward the back.
So, this is a draft after a consultation appointment with the architect. It was then revised again with the builder.
We want a functional home that works for 2 adults and potentially 2 children (1 currently). In addition, we have a dog, but that obviously adapts too (the mudroom is also designed for this).
Home office is generally possible and planned. First, we have one child’s room reserved and intended for this purpose. Afterwards, the office niche or the bedroom upstairs. We don’t need much except a quiet place to work.
If all else fails, the pantry will become the office (possibly then accessible from the hallway).
The upstairs bathroom is somewhat elongated due to the narrow building footprint and straight staircase. The washing machine and dryer are shown upstairs and are planned to be there. There are also connections in the utility room. Otherwise, the space upstairs or downstairs will be used for storage.
I look forward to your opinions.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 654 sqm (7040 sq ft)
Slope no
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building setback, building line and boundary 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development only garages or carport
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors max 2
Roof pitch 0–48 degrees
Style single-family house
Orientation any
Maximum heights / limits 6 m (20 ft) wall and 9 m (30 ft) total
Other requirements cistern
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type gable roof
Basement, floors 2
Number of people, age 2 adults and potentially 2 children, currently 1
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor
Office: family use or home office? Both
Guest sleeping per year, if so guests sleep in the children’s rooms
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 1
Fireplace no
Music / stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes
Utility garden, greenhouse possible
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included
House Design
Who designed it:
- Initial draft by architect then adjustments with builder/architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Utility room with separate door (mudroom), large pantry
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 433k
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 500k
Preferred heating technology: air heat pump and central ventilation system
If you had to give up, which details / extensions
- Could you give up: if push comes to shove, the separate door for the utility room or the pantry could be omitted
- Could you not give up: guest WC with shower
Why did the design turn out the way it did? For example:
Build as small as possible but as large as necessary. The plot becomes wider toward the back.
So, this is a draft after a consultation appointment with the architect. It was then revised again with the builder.
We want a functional home that works for 2 adults and potentially 2 children (1 currently). In addition, we have a dog, but that obviously adapts too (the mudroom is also designed for this).
Home office is generally possible and planned. First, we have one child’s room reserved and intended for this purpose. Afterwards, the office niche or the bedroom upstairs. We don’t need much except a quiet place to work.
If all else fails, the pantry will become the office (possibly then accessible from the hallway).
The upstairs bathroom is somewhat elongated due to the narrow building footprint and straight staircase. The washing machine and dryer are shown upstairs and are planned to be there. There are also connections in the utility room. Otherwise, the space upstairs or downstairs will be used for storage.
I look forward to your opinions.
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Milka01058 Jul 2025 15:33ypg schrieb:
I’m surprised by how generous you are with the necessary dimensions in the outdoor area—almost excessively so. A parking space requires about 2.50 meters (8 feet 2 inches) plus clearance for movement (remember garages, which are uncomfortable but still manage with an interior width of 2.70 meters (8 feet 10 inches)).
And indoors, you add 20cm (8 inches). You simply can’t place furniture right against the wall. With plastered walls, you should plan about 15cm (6 inches) less than the stated measurement. The answer is simple. Outside, the cost per square meter is definitely not 2000€. At some point, there has to be a limit. And whether the carport will actually be built like that remains to be seen. What has been applied for, I can at least build eventually. Maybe a double garage will be added to the plan and the carport reduced in size. But right now, I just wanted the design to be realistic.
So, the limiting factor is money.
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Milka01058 Jul 2025 15:44ypg schrieb:
No, you have basically drawn the exact same layout, just with the entrance and utility room swapped. You’ve transferred all the other elements exactly, including the impractical kitchen. We’re not talking about a 20cm (8 inches) shift or gain here. This is about the kitchen’s spatial planning. Then as an amateur, I simply don’t understand it. Sorry about that. But I admit it! As I said, I don’t want more than about 140sqm (1500 sq ft). I really like the side entrance, but I couldn’t realize it any other way than in the floor plan I drew. I want a 4m (13 feet) distance between the TV and the sofa. A large dining table measuring 2x1m (6.5x3 feet) should fit, and ideally it should be possible to walk completely around it. I just like having a pantry—or storage room, as you call it. I was convinced that a guest toilet doesn’t need a shower. A utility room with a mudroom area would be great, but if not, that’s okay too. The terrace obviously should face south. I want most of the light in the dining room and kitchen.
As a layperson, no other floor plan seems possible to me.
ypg schrieb:
Here’s a tip: you can probably build over the stairwell opening at the start. Still, swapping the bedroom and bathroom is advisable.
You can already see that the upper floor here is the better version compared to the original!
I would therefore use the upper floor as the basis for the single-family house plan: keep the load-bearing walls, relocate your storage room (which you affectionately call pantry) to make it more accessible, and start the open living space earlier to gain more usable area. As I mentioned above, I can’t think of any other idea except swapping kitchen and living room. I can look into that again. Even though I don’t like this kitchen layout with the bar counter, I will try drawing it.
Milka0105 schrieb:
I’m not sure what you mean by that. That’s probably why I wasn’t able to answer. It seems you’re ignoring part of the building envelope:
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Milka0105 schrieb:
What is approved can at least be built eventually. This pushes the house towards the southeast property line.
Milka0105 schrieb:
I want most of the light in the dining room and kitchen. In that case, I would keep a bit more distance from that boundary. @hanghaus2023 has already drawn it very sensibly, in my opinion.
I could contribute more as well, but I’m currently on vacation and don’t have my graph paper handy 😉
By the way, I’m not the only one who supports having the kitchen open to the terrace.
I think it’s a charming idea to place the terrace in the southwest and then make use of the planned larger canopy, which is currently designed on the west side, to occasionally dine outside in summer. It doesn’t have to be as large as currently drawn.
Then the living room moves to the southeast, where it can enjoy good daylight especially in winter. The pantry can be located under the stairs, and the utility/technical room can be moved to the east.
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Milka01058 Jul 2025 18:4511ant schrieb:
You seem to be overlooking part of the building window: Yes, I hadn’t realized that. But it doesn’t really help me with the floor plan issue. Apparently, everything fits. Whether it’s 9.5 x 9.5 or 10.5 x 8.6 meters (31 x 31 or 34 x 28 feet), but apparently my idea doesn’t match the size.
"ypg schrieb:
@hanghaus2023[/USER] has already drawn it very sensibly, in my opinion.
I could contribute more, but I’m currently on vacation and don’t have my graph paper handy. 😉
By the way, I’m not the only one supporting: kitchen facing the terrace.
I think it’s a charming idea to place the terrace to the southwest and then use the planned enlarged roof canopy on the west side for occasional summer dining. It doesn’t need to be as large as currently drawn.
Then the living room moves to the southeast, where it gets nice daylight in winter. The pantry can go under the stairs, and the technical rooms shift to the east. A terrace like that is out of the question for us. It’s a mountainous area. In the evening, the sun sets behind the ridge and the forest. The west side is only ideal for a short time in midsummer. Most of the year it’s too cold or not sunny enough.
Milka0105 schrieb:
In the evening, the sun sets behind the hill and the forest. Where exactly? Where is the hill, and where is the forest?
This kind of information should be included in the original post. We keep going around in circles in this discussion because facts are only provided after asking three times and five pages later.
Milka0105 schrieb:
A lakeside terrace is not an option for us. Is that now a reason for you not to have a terrace at all? I mean, you can’t plan one properly if you only have a narrow strip of land left there.
Besides, a terrace has nothing to do with sunlight. A terrace means an outdoor seating area. The first one belongs to the house.
If someone wants to sunbathe, they can go out onto the lawn.
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