ᐅ Is Membership in a Private Home Builders Association Worthwhile?
Created on: 12 Jan 2018 09:51
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Marcello
Hello,
Yesterday, I came across the Association of Private Homeowners through a trade magazine, the Verband Privater Bauherren e.V. I called their Berlin office today and was informed that members benefit from discounts.
My specific questions were about (a) legal support for reviewing contracts either with architects or prefabricated house suppliers and (b) independent construction and quality inspections during the building process.
Can anyone share personal experience regarding whether membership offers worthwhile advantages? The monthly membership fee is reasonable, but I don’t want to waste money unnecessarily. My main interest is especially in the two services mentioned above.
Thank you.
Yesterday, I came across the Association of Private Homeowners through a trade magazine, the Verband Privater Bauherren e.V. I called their Berlin office today and was informed that members benefit from discounts.
My specific questions were about (a) legal support for reviewing contracts either with architects or prefabricated house suppliers and (b) independent construction and quality inspections during the building process.
Can anyone share personal experience regarding whether membership offers worthwhile advantages? The monthly membership fee is reasonable, but I don’t want to waste money unnecessarily. My main interest is especially in the two services mentioned above.
Thank you.
M
moeSzyslak30 May 2023 08:51In summary, it seems that, at least based on the feedback here, hiring such an expert for construction supervision might not be necessary. That surprises me somewhat.
Okay, a publicly appointed and sworn expert might be more conscientious than someone who simply uses the unregulated title "expert."
I’m not sure if it makes sense for us. I’m starting to feel a bit uncertain. If I hire one of these specialists and the report only points out defects that are obvious to me, I don’t want to pay several thousand euros for that. To me, it sounds more like a type of insurance that you pay for but hopefully never need. The goal for me would be to use this "insurance" to identify errors early before they delay construction or lead to more serious defects and possibly legal disputes.
I’m still interested in further advice, experiences, or recommendations, especially perhaps in the Oberhavel region / north of Berlin.
Okay, a publicly appointed and sworn expert might be more conscientious than someone who simply uses the unregulated title "expert."
I’m not sure if it makes sense for us. I’m starting to feel a bit uncertain. If I hire one of these specialists and the report only points out defects that are obvious to me, I don’t want to pay several thousand euros for that. To me, it sounds more like a type of insurance that you pay for but hopefully never need. The goal for me would be to use this "insurance" to identify errors early before they delay construction or lead to more serious defects and possibly legal disputes.
I’m still interested in further advice, experiences, or recommendations, especially perhaps in the Oberhavel region / north of Berlin.
W
WilderSueden30 May 2023 09:34I would definitely not skip hiring an expert. While I agree that thorough planning and a reliable builder are crucial, how do you identify them in advance?
An expert doesn’t necessarily prevent disputes. In my case, the general contractor’s "we’ve always done it this way" clashed with the expert’s "that hasn’t been correct for 15 years."
An expert doesn’t necessarily prevent disputes. In my case, the general contractor’s "we’ve always done it this way" clashed with the expert’s "that hasn’t been correct for 15 years."
WilderSueden schrieb:
I agree that good planning and a reliable builder are the key factors. But how can you identify them in advance? This is my everyday work, and I have said several times that I am certainly not the only independent building consultant. However, I work nationwide and therefore do not have a recommendation for a colleague in the area of the original poster. I also don’t know what services my colleagues offer. But I am confident that there are several of them.
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moeSzyslak schrieb:
Reading this, it seems that neither the Homeowners’ Protection Association nor the Private Homeowners’ Association are really ideal.
TÜV and DEKRA also offer similar services. Has anyone had experience with them?
How do you find an expert to review the contract and the construction specifications as well as to supervise the construction, who is really worth the money? I think the question hasn’t really been addressed: which organization is truly independent, neutral, and technically knowledgeable enough to help evaluate the construction and performance specifications for their impact on the house’s quality? And no, it’s not about the rimless toilet but rather about the structural quality or what type of insulation is used, how the roof is constructed, how the basement is built, whether thermal bridges are eliminated, and so on — things I won’t be able to change later. I can always change or upgrade a floor covering. But a poorly sealed basement or foundation slab is a disaster!
The execution of the promised services is another issue; having an independent expert assess that is step two.
Would TÜV or DEKRA be the right choice? The associations don’t seem that great.
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nordanney20 May 2025 13:27D-Zug88 schrieb:
And no, it’s not about the rimless toilet but about the construction quality or the type of insulation used, how the roof is built, how the basement is constructed, elimination of thermal bridges, etc.—things that I can’t change later. Generally, you can’t significantly change the quality in a standard production house either. And exactly “how” the building is constructed, meaning the execution (your keyword thermal bridges), you can only inspect during the construction process.
Your first step should be a qualified architect if you want to get that deeply involved in the subject.
Although, in your position, I wouldn’t even bother reading a building specification because I would go directly to the architect and have my house designed. So, in reality, your step one practically doesn’t exist.
D-Zug88 schrieb:
Which source is truly independent, neutral, and expert enough to help evaluate the construction and scope of work specifications based on the actual quality of the house? And no, it’s not about the rimless toilet but rather about the structural quality, the type of insulation used, how the roof is constructed, how the basement is executed, elimination of thermal bridges, and so on—basically, things I won’t be able to change later. As a general recommendation, do not just passively "have the scope of work read" (i.e., simply review it), but actively specify it yourself. The knowledgeable and client-advocate party for this is the architect (who is also useful for clients who are not primarily focused on a unique floorplan design).
D-Zug88 schrieb:
The execution of the promised services is topic two; having this evaluated by a truly independent expert is step two. During the work phase 8, have the architect who planned and prepared the tender documents also manage the construction (that is, have the same architect handle both phases 1 to 4 and 5 to 8, ideally contracted separately as modules A to C as described in my house building schedule). This way, you effectively have a preventive expert on site. This often eliminates the need to involve a damage assessor for evidence preservation procedures later on. Having the scope of work drafted by a general contractor selected without architectural support and then reviewing it merely for clues that the contractor is not a "baker using cheap ingredients" is the opposite of an efficient approach. It starts with the fact that creating one detailed scope of work requires significantly less effort than comparing three or four conflicting ones (apples and oranges, day and night). Do not act as a construction ping-pong ball or hazard seeker, but as the client—and let your client-advocate building consultant, aka architect, give the instructions accordingly. “Tendering” means actively standardizing without Excel crutches. Detailed planning and tendering lead to a project-specific scope of work.
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