Hello everyone
We are planning the dining/cooking/living area, so I’m not sure if this is the right forum?
We have a 3.5-room apartment on the ground floor. We enjoy cooking, also for family and friends.
We have a space of 7.25 m x 7.10 m (24 ft x 23 ft 4 in) available.
Our requirements:
- A bar in the kitchen for 2 or more people
- Enough space to cook together with family and friends
- A dining table for 8 people
Attached you will find the floor plan. What would be your suggestions for the layout of the dining/cooking/living area?
I have attached the floor plan as a JPEG and a PDF; both are the same.
We already had 1-2 ideas, but they all had their weaknesses. Therefore, as a starting point, I removed all furniture from the floor plan to avoid any bias.
Additionally, due to the large open space, a support column will be needed. This can be placed relatively flexibly somewhere central, so I would like to first plan the dining/cooking/living area. The column can then be integrated where it makes the most sense (e.g., near a bar or kitchen corner).
What other information would be helpful?
Thanks in advance and best regards
We are planning the dining/cooking/living area, so I’m not sure if this is the right forum?
We have a 3.5-room apartment on the ground floor. We enjoy cooking, also for family and friends.
We have a space of 7.25 m x 7.10 m (24 ft x 23 ft 4 in) available.
Our requirements:
- A bar in the kitchen for 2 or more people
- Enough space to cook together with family and friends
- A dining table for 8 people
Attached you will find the floor plan. What would be your suggestions for the layout of the dining/cooking/living area?
I have attached the floor plan as a JPEG and a PDF; both are the same.
We already had 1-2 ideas, but they all had their weaknesses. Therefore, as a starting point, I removed all furniture from the floor plan to avoid any bias.
Additionally, due to the large open space, a support column will be needed. This can be placed relatively flexibly somewhere central, so I would like to first plan the dining/cooking/living area. The column can then be integrated where it makes the most sense (e.g., near a bar or kitchen corner).
What other information would be helpful?
Thanks in advance and best regards
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
Here are two suggestions.
You can still move the door to the pantry, which would allow for furniture placement along the wall.
Hello Hanghaus, I like the idea, but unfortunately, I think we can no longer change the windows (though I would need to check).N
nordanney1 Apr 2025 11:45faselph schrieb:
This is a replacement building, and on the ground floor there will later be a 3.5-room apartment; currently, combined with the upper floor, it forms a 7.5-room apartment.
The plan for our family of five (3 children, 2 adults) is to have 4 rooms on the upper floor; on the ground floor there will be an office and a guest room, which will be used about 90 days per year (maybe hopefully more in the future). The attic will be used as a play area. Then I don’t understand the entire floor plan nor the intention behind it.
Two separate apartments?
Where will the kids put their clothes when they come in? Why such a layout downstairs with access to the other rooms? Why the bathroom designed like that?
faselph schrieb:
Hello nordanney, thanks for the honest feedback, how would you plan the floor plan? Either plan for two separate apartments. Then the ground floor should be functional and the upper floor as well.
But actually it’s a single house built like two apartments. What nonsense—starting with the entrance situation alone. Where would the three children put their dirty shoes or jackets? Do they just take them upstairs?
If it is supposed to be a house, then it should be designed as a house.
To answer your specific question on how I would plan the layout: I would completely discard the current floor plan and develop a layout for a functioning family home. I find everything unsuitable for family life.
haydee schrieb:
Why didn’t you plan the rooms differently?
A square shape is always difficult to furnish. One area will always remain dark.
There is a lack of privacy.
The kitchen in the lower right is my favorite. However, I would adopt the bathroom/bedroom layout from @hanghaus2023.
Please draw in a proper sofa. The one in the plan looks a bit small.Hello Haydee, how would you have planned the rooms? Do you have a better suggestion? As I said, the staircase and front door are fixed since we are not allowed to create another entrance.
I would change the staircase position and plan for a separate entrance in case the apartment is divided later. You are building for the present, not for some indefinite future. The layout might be changed again at some point in a way different from what you currently envision.
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Nice-Nofret1 Apr 2025 11:51There is a conflicting goal: right now, you are an extended family with three children and many guests – meaning you need a correspondingly large kitchen, cloakroom, dining and living area.
If the unit is supposed to be a 3.5-room apartment later on, the requirements are quite different – the apartment is designed for one to a maximum of three people. The emphasis on bedrooms with wardrobes is then greater, the sleeping area should be somewhat more separated, and the kitchen and cloakroom significantly smaller, etc.
All-in-one solutions have still not been invented.
If the unit is supposed to be a 3.5-room apartment later on, the requirements are quite different – the apartment is designed for one to a maximum of three people. The emphasis on bedrooms with wardrobes is then greater, the sleeping area should be somewhat more separated, and the kitchen and cloakroom significantly smaller, etc.
All-in-one solutions have still not been invented.
@haydee ... we already suggested that combination about a year ago.
EDIT:
It is always more productive to simply continue ongoing discussions after a break.
kbt09 schrieb:
I think the planning is still affected by the points that @haydee mentioned back in post 2.
I would initially set aside the idea of dividing the house later. If the house is divided, then an external staircase to the upper floor should be added.
For now, I would plan a staircase very centrally, right in the middle of the house—for the ground floor, effectively as a separation between living/dining/kitchen areas and the more private rooms like the full bathroom/guest room.
EDIT:
It is always more productive to simply continue ongoing discussions after a break.
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