ᐅ Ground Floor Layout: Dining / Kitchen / Living Area

Created on: 1 Apr 2025 08:11
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faselph
Hello everyone

We are planning the dining/cooking/living area, so I’m not sure if this is the right forum?

We have a 3.5-room apartment on the ground floor. We enjoy cooking, also for family and friends.
We have a space of 7.25 m x 7.10 m (24 ft x 23 ft 4 in) available.
Our requirements:
- A bar in the kitchen for 2 or more people
- Enough space to cook together with family and friends
- A dining table for 8 people

Attached you will find the floor plan. What would be your suggestions for the layout of the dining/cooking/living area?
I have attached the floor plan as a JPEG and a PDF; both are the same.

We already had 1-2 ideas, but they all had their weaknesses. Therefore, as a starting point, I removed all furniture from the floor plan to avoid any bias.
Additionally, due to the large open space, a support column will be needed. This can be placed relatively flexibly somewhere central, so I would like to first plan the dining/cooking/living area. The column can then be integrated where it makes the most sense (e.g., near a bar or kitchen corner).

What other information would be helpful?
Thanks in advance and best regards
Grundriss eines Hauses: links Wohn- und Essbereich, Küche, Eingang; rechts Garagen/Hallen.
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kbt09
1 Apr 2025 09:59
@nordanney It’s not that bad. After all, it’s a large room; the OP just needs to provide much more detailed information so that targeted suggestions can be made for this space.
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haydee
1 Apr 2025 10:12
The floor plan looks familiar. Have you posted it before? Renovation of an older building, perhaps?
I find the layout quite difficult to furnish, especially since the bedrooms are directly adjacent.

Living area facing the bedrooms
Kitchen/dining area opening onto the terrace
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nordanney
1 Apr 2025 10:12
kbt09 schrieb:

@nordanney It’s not that bad. After all, it’s a large room, but the original poster needs to provide much more detailed information so that targeted suggestions can be made for this space.
Do you really think so?
A 90sqm (970 sqft) apartment that
- has no hallway leading to the individual rooms and
- requires walking through the living room every time to reach the bathroom
- has the bathroom/shower opening directly into the living room
- has an open-plan area without any wall space for furniture
- and so on.

For me, this is a deal-breaker in terms of renting or selling the apartment, and in my opinion, it’s not exactly ideal for the person living there, to put it mildly.

If this floor plan isn’t strongly criticized, then there is no point in commenting on other layouts, which have far fewer flaws.

With that, as someone who’s not a floor plan expert, I’m stepping out of this thread again.
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hanghaus2023
1 Apr 2025 10:45
Here are two proposals.

Floor plan of a house with bathroom, bedroom, living room, and entrance area


The door to the pantry can still be moved here, which would allow furniture to be placed along the wall.

2D floor plan of a house with dining area, kitchen, living room, bathroom, and entrance
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kbt09
1 Apr 2025 10:47
Yes, I fully agree that it doesn’t look very attractive. For example, I would design the bedroom completely differently.

But when the circumstances are as they are, you have to consider what can be done with them. However, there is simply not enough information to get started.

For instance, questions like whether the other walls or room entries can still be changed, whether the window positions are flexible, and so on.

I just checked, and about a year ago there was already a discussion on this topic https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-wohnteil-bauernhaus-ch-aufteilung-zimmer-nutzung-flaeche.47311/#post-661332. At that time, the concept for the bedroom was even better.

And the approach by @hanghaus2023 for the three rooms at the top of the plan is even better.
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ypg
1 Apr 2025 10:53
The house has already been discussed here
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-wohnteil-bauernhaus-ch-aufteilung-zimmer-nutzung-flaeche.47311/#post-660945
At the very least, the bedrooms and bathroom should be separated from the open living area to ensure privacy is maintained.