ᐅ 200-300 sqm Prefabricated House or Passive House? Manufacturer? Construction Company?

Dirk Grafe schrieb:
I see. So my opinion is just a prejudice, others must be tolerated by me – humor is when you laugh anyway.

You yourself only speak of "certain manufacturers" and even emphasize that. What conclusions do you think that allows? Is it unreasonable to suggest that other prefabricated houses do not receive this equal evaluation from the appraisers?

Regards,
Dirk Grafe

You just don’t want to understand me, do you?

Maybe you should read my last post again.

I consider my time too valuable for pointless discussions like this (or should I call it irony and sarcasm, which, according to your words, are completely out of place).

ypg schrieb:

I’m not even sure if Huf is considered prefabricated construction,

Yes. And the houses from this provider are rated by banks—along with a few other prefabricated house suppliers—similarly to manufactured homes.

ypg schrieb:

For example, Bien-Zenker gave us names of various homeowners who were able to fully finance their homes through the bank. But you can also ask the lending bank directly.

I consider that to be wishful thinking.

Regards, Bauexperte

Hello,

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

Are prefabricated houses also made of bricks (how do they perform in terms of value retention, renovation, etc.)?

A prefabricated house is always one where the walls are built using a wooden frame. It does not matter whether the frame is processed in a traditional timber-frame style or a more conventional method, nor whether the frame is assembled first in the factory or on-site.

If solid construction uses prefabricated walls—for example, made of lightweight expanded clay aggregate—it is more accurately called a solid house with prefabricated wall elements. Overall, the structure remains fully solid!

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

Is aerated concrete really solid? Or a highly porous brick—have you ever tried using a rotary hammer drill on these?

Yes. They are and remain stones, not wood.

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

And how should prefabricated floor slabs or prefab roof trusses be classified (here, someone assembled their house ‘solid’ from aerated concrete blocks glued together, and had the roof truss manufactured in a large carpentry workshop and installed onto the house—the roof was in place and watertight within one day).

That does not affect whether the main structural frame of the house is wood or masonry.

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

There are definitely reasons why some people prefer ‘solid’ construction, others wood frame, and again

Agreed; mostly it’s a matter of personal preference.

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

Others prefer ‘solid wood’—does that then count as ‘solid’ or ‘prefabricated’ house?

Prefabricated house. Although with this type—at least with log homes—the financing tends to be more favorable compared to the majority of prefabricated houses sold.

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

Value retention... that’s hard to answer as well. High-quality homes always perform better in the local market than dilapidated buildings; the construction method usually plays little to no role. The renovation effort can be significant in either case, but it can also be minimal—and this has a much greater impact on the achievable sale price than the construction method.

That is not entirely correct. Prefabricated houses have an internal bank valuation lifespan of around 60 years, solid houses about 80 years. First, for both types, the potential sale price in a well-maintained condition is calculated, then the costs of any required renovations are deducted. Only the location of the existing property distorts the sale price; it often drives prices up but does not say anything about the difference between prefab and solid construction.

Still, it can be observed that some homeowners overestimate their property. My family and I could buy a prefabricated house from a supplier in a sought-after location with very few walls but many windows. Top condition, prime location—but the seller, even after two years of trying to sell, still believes he can get the original construction cost as the sale price. Sometimes location alone isn’t the decisive purchasing incentive. I’m also not willing to pay significantly above USD 700,000 for a prefabricated house—including the land—from even a reputable supplier.

Irgendwoabaier schrieb:

Durability? Usually not a big factor. The oldest houses in our village all have a masonry base with a braced wooden frame filled with straw and clay.

Increasingly this is becoming relevant again, as the market for well-maintained existing homes is largely exhausted. The houses you describe were built very differently and still command high prices today—rightfully so—if they have been well cared for. Try asking nowadays for a construction price for that building method, and it quickly becomes clear why it is only seldom built that way anymore.

In summary, it always depends on the choice of the supplier. Ultimately, whether someone chooses a prefabricated or solid house is purely an intuitive decision. By the way—also cheap solid houses lose significant market value after just 10 years.

Regards, Bauexperte

Thank you @Bauexperte for the explanations.
However, I’m wondering what the point of this whole discussion is. It almost feels like the debates between supporters of central and decentralized ventilation systems. Stop – don’t start that discussion again.

f-pNo schrieb:
However, I wonder what the whole discussion is about here. It almost reminds me of the debates between advocates of central and decentralized ventilation systems. Stop – let's not start that discussion again.

@f-pNo : You are absolutely right. That was also the reason I decided to withdraw.

Dear house enthusiasts,

thank you for the interesting discussion!

We like the Huf Art 5, but the question is whether the price is justified and whether, in terms of privacy, there might eventually be too much glass for us…

What other good detached and semi-detached house builders are there that offer beautiful homes of higher quality in the 200sqm (2,150 sq ft) range?
We have received some catalogs from detached house builders, but most of them tend to offer more "basic" houses between 110 and 170sqm (1,185 and 1,830 sq ft).
It seems that typical detached house builders usually don’t want to spend more than around €200,000, which naturally shapes their offerings…