ᐅ Beautiful new L-shaped kitchen in a newly built home, with no prior experience

Created on: 19 Jan 2025 14:56
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NeuDabei2025
Hello everyone!

I have been following your forum closely during our house construction, and now we are facing the decision of how to design our kitchen.

Originally, we wanted a walk-in pantry, but in our opinion, that no longer seems feasible. So, we have designed the kitchen in an L-shape with plenty of storage space. The water connection and electrical planning are still pending.

We had an initial design made (3D images; floor plan recreated by me), but since we have no experience buying a kitchen yet, we are looking forward to your suggestions! Thanks in advance...

Best regards

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Regarding the appliances, we are still undecided, but we could imagine the following:

Range hood: Siemens iQ500 LC81KAN60

Cooktop: Siemens iQ700 EX845HVC1E

Oven: Siemens iQ700 HB774G1B1

Dishwasher: Siemens iQ500 SN65EX12CE

For the sink, we are considering:

Franke Maris MRG 611-78 (as shown in the picture)

I have read quite a bit of criticism about durability and food discoloration.

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About the kitchen itself, here is some information:

Manufacturer: Nobilia

Fronts: Touch 336 lacquer laminate Magnolia super matte

Countertop: 149 Concrete Terragrau

Carcass: 120 Magnolia

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Brief explanation of the layout (based on the floor plan and 3D renderings):

General
We will probably have a direct passage from the hallway into the kitchen, which will remain open.
We are still unsure whether the kitchen should be 240 cm (about 94 inches) high at all (possibly too tall) and/or if a panel should be installed all the way up to the ceiling to enclose it. With friends, a fully enclosed kitchen up to the ceiling looked very good.
All handles should be centered, whether on drawers or regular doors.
We have not decided yet what to use as backsplash decoration (on the wall).

Wall next to the door
  • Possibly a French door refrigerator will be placed centered on the wall next to the door
  • To the left of the fridge will be the stove, and to the right the raised dishwasher
  • We are undecided whether the cabinet on the left should have just one door or multiple doors
  • It would be nice if the dishwasher is the same height as the stove, but that would make it very tall and the planner says this is not possible with the manufacturer

Wall to the left of the floor-to-ceiling window
  • In the L-shape, the left side will provide storage for everything, since we no longer have a pantry
  • The cabinets can only be 40 cm (about 16 inches) deep due to the window
  • We are undecided whether these should have one, two, or three doors

Wall to the right of the floor-to-ceiling window
  • The standard width of the drawers should be 60 cm (about 24 inches)
  • The height including the countertop is approximately 90 cm (about 35 inches), with a 10 cm (about 4 inches) plinth, but I am not entirely sure
  • The stove will be 90 cm (about 35 inches) wide, and we chose a range hood because a cooktop with integrated extractor would be more expensive and louder
  • The sink should be centered under the window
  • We are unsure whether to choose a Franke sink made of ceramic or a simpler material
  • The sink should be in a cashmere color or similar
  • At the end of the L-shape, we have a cabinet with a carousel

Grundriss einer Küche mit Insel, Schränken, Herd, Spüle und Maßangaben (13.71 m2)

3D-Küchenlayout einer Wohnküche mit Kühlschrank, Ofen, Spüle und Fronten.

Moderne Küchenzeile mit weißen Hängeschränken, dunklem Arbeitsplattenbereich, Spüle am Fenster.

Grundriss einer Wohnung mit Küche, Wohnen/Essen, Diele, Speisekammer, Du/WC, Terrasse.
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MachsSelbst
26 Jan 2025 00:15
Preheat the dishes, let the steak rest. Yesterday, I seared a porterhouse and then cooked it in the warming drawer at 80°C (175°F) for almost 2.5 hours. Excellent result. You can also do this in the oven, but if you’re baking beans at 180°C (355°F) at the same time, that’s not ideal...

Built-in coffee machine... well, I go through 5 to 7 Americanos a day working from home, my wife also drinks a lot of coffee, and so do guests. A fully automatic coffee machine takes up a lot of counter space. I would definitely buy one again. Below it, there’s the warming drawer.

The second oven can be just 45cm (18 inches) high and include a microwave function.

The dream would be to have a vacuum drawer underneath... but that’s pure luxury and correspondingly very expensive.

I used pyrolytic cleaning twice with my old oven. Each time the lamp broke, and it didn’t remove everything. There are better cleaning solutions available nowadays.
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MachsSelbst
26 Jan 2025 00:31
I’ve taken another look at the pictures...
I find the oven completely out of place.
Next to the refrigerator is definitely not very efficient... and when you’re cooking, you want to be able to check the oven, right?

The coffee machine should go where the oven is now, making it easier to reach from the living room.

Both ovens with the warming drawer belong behind the stove. With retractable doors, it won’t get too tight. With 2m (6 ft 7 in) wide tall cabinets, there should be more than enough space.
Oh, I just noticed... only 38cm (15 inches) deep... a total design flaw?

I would also add more drawers in the tall cabinets. Wherever possible, use drawers.
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NeuDabei2025
26 Jan 2025 00:40
MachsSelbst schrieb:

Prewarming dishes, letting the steak rest. Yesterday, I seared a porterhouse and then cooked it for just under 2.5 hours in the warming drawer at 80°C (175°F). Excellent result.
You can also do this in the oven, but if the beans are baking at 180°C (355°F) at the same time, that doesn’t work well...

Built-in coffee machine... well, in my home office, we go through 5 to 7 Americanos a day, my wife drinks a lot of coffee too, and so do guests.
A fully automatic coffee machine takes up a lot of countertop space.
I would buy it again anytime. The warming drawer is installed underneath it.

The second oven can also be just 45cm (18 inches) high and have a microwave function.

The dream would be a vacuum drawer below that... but that’s really pure luxury and correspondingly very expensive.

I used pyrolytic cleaning twice with my old oven. Each time the lamp broke, and it didn’t remove everything. There are better cleaning solutions available now.

Interesting! I’ll take a closer look. Thanks!
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NeuDabei2025
26 Jan 2025 00:41
MachsSelbst schrieb:

I just looked at the pictures again...
I find the oven completely misplaced.
Next to the fridge is definitely not very efficient... and when you're cooking, you want to be able to check the oven, right?

The coffee machine belongs where the oven is now, for short trips to the living room.

And the two ovens with warming drawer should be placed next to the stove. With retractable doors, it won’t get too cramped. With wide 2m (6 ft 7 in) tall cabinets, there should be more than enough space, right?
Oh, I just noticed... only 38cm (15 inches) deep... that's an absolute planning error?

I would also add more pull-outs in the tall cabinets. Pull-outs wherever possible.


That’s why we have already redesigned it. The two new versions are one page before this. Looking forward to your feedback!
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SoL
26 Jan 2025 09:20
MachsSelbst schrieb:

But that is really pure luxury and accordingly extremely expensive.

That's true, the rest of your post covers absolute necessities.
Ibdk1426 Jan 2025 10:49
I am still uncertain about the placement of the dishwasher. You might be loading items over the sink or countertop area.

That could cause water to drip onto the floor. It’s possible to do it that way, but it’s not really ideal. With a new kitchen design, I would arrange it differently.

The dishwasher should always be close to the sink. Rinse briefly (if necessary) and put the items directly into the machine.