ᐅ Wall construction on lime-cement plaster (healthy indoor environment / mineral-based)

Created on: 27 Nov 2024 11:39
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cryptoki
Hi.

I don’t want to overuse the terms healthy living or ecological. Our wall construction should ideally meet these criteria and withstand the wear and tear from two small children.

The planned wall build-up is as follows:
  • Primer
  • Full-surface silicate filler
  • Paint fleece
  • Silicate dispersion paint

Originally, I was considering a mineral filler plus a filler fleece and silicate paint. I also like the build-up with paint fleece because it seems more durable. Walls do take a lot of abuse with children around. For the paint, I would choose a washability class 1 so that dirty “hands” can be wiped off easily.

However, with this build-up including the paint fleece, the silicate dispersion paint won’t naturally silicify, right? What do you think about this build-up?
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Christadoreen
17 Jan 2025 11:01
Eight years ago, I had my hallway painted with silicate paint by a professional painter. Now I need to repaint the walls because my dogs have made them dirty. Wiping them clean is no longer possible. Can I apply a primer and then paint over it with latex paint? Or will moisture get trapped under the primer or latex paint?
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nordanney
17 Jan 2025 11:04
Christadoreen schrieb:

Eight years ago, I had my hallway painted by a professional using silicate paint. Now I need to repaint the walls because my dogs have made them dirty. Wiping them down no longer works. Can I apply a primer and then paint with latex paint? Or will moisture get trapped under the primer or latex paint?
Why do you want to use a primer? Just paint over it and create a rubber-like layer on the wall, and you’re done.

That said, I personally find latex paint unpleasant. But that’s just a matter of personal preference.
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Christadoreen
17 Jan 2025 12:35
A painter told me this once. Regular paint is not supposed to work because it peels off and mold can develop. Silicate paint bonds with the substrate.
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nordanney
17 Jan 2025 12:46
Christadoreen schrieb:

A painter told me that. Regular paint supposedly won’t work because it peels off and mold can develop. Silicate paint bonds with the substrate.
Regular emulsion paint also works if a suitable primer is used.

Mold development is a myth from Tikitaka Wonderland. It has nothing to do with silicate paint. However, I still don’t understand why latex paint is supposed to be applied. Simply repaint with silicate emulsion paint and that’s fine.
Tolentino17 Jan 2025 12:54
Because it’s wipeable. My wife also wanted that on a wall in her plant room.
I also said it’s dirty. Didn’t help.
Latex paint on silicate paint does eventually peel off. However, in our case, it flakes in very small particles even with quite heavy use of the wall (I have a daybed in the office where I often lean against the wall while streaming on the monitor). Since that dirties the wall over time, I only painted a small strip with latex paint to make cleaning easier there. After about a year, the latex layer has worn off in some spots. But as I said, that’s with daily leaning against it...
To the person asking the question, I would rather recommend applying a durable wipeable wallpaper there. Pattern or photo (a photo of the dogs would be funny). First, stains don’t show up as much, and second, you can really wipe it clean without worrying that it will peel off eventually.
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cryptoki
17 Jan 2025 12:54
nordanney schrieb:

Mold growth comes from the Tikitaka wonderland.

I don’t quite understand the connection to the original post, but okay. Use a good silicate paint with a wet abrasion resistance class of 1, apply two coats, and then enjoy it for the next several years. No idea why anyone would want to seal the wall with latex paint or how that relates to healthy living conditions, etc.