ᐅ Floor plan for a newly built two-story single-family house, 200 m² (2,150 sq ft)
Created on: 26 Dec 2024 16:14
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HaseUndIgel
Hello everyone and Merry Christmas,
after I posted a question about the heat pump to be used a few days ago, I now want to continue with the main and fundamental thread regarding the floor plan.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 618 m² (6660 sq ft)
Slope: None
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: None
Building envelope, building line and boundary: See image
Peripheral development: No
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: up to 2
Roof shape: All allowed; for hip or gable roofs 25° - 50° pitch
Architectural style: None specified
Orientation: None specified
Maximum height / limits: 9 m ridge height (29.5 ft)
Other requirements: Photovoltaic system covering at least 50% of usable roof surface
Homeowner Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: "Urban villa but Northern German style"
Basement, floors: 2 full stories, no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people, 32, 32, 1, -2 years
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: Study (ground floor), Study/guest room (upper floor)
Office: Family use or home office? 1 office for full-time use, 1 additional as a guest room hybrid
Number of guest stay days per year: approx. 10-15 days, mostly family
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern construction: More modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Open kitchen, with island if it fits, otherwise U- or L-shaped
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Carport for 1 car
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are wanted or not: Nothing noteworthy
House Design
Who designed the plan: Planner (Architect?) of the general contractor (GC)
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you dislike and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 565,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 730,000 EUR (including garden, carport, photovoltaics, kitchen, additional costs)
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump is basically a must (no gas connection)
If you have to give up, which details / extras
Why did the design turn out the way it did?
Three-hour meeting with the architect at the general contractor, starting from a similar model house (this was a 1.5-story house with a gable roof), several iterations on tracing paper, then a week later the digital design was received.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Covered entrance and terrace set back under the upper floor, bedroom with dressing room, 2 studies (1 ground floor, 1 upper floor).
What do you think makes the design good or bad? Overall we quite like the whole package.
I’m looking forward to your opinions and am curious about what you think. If we still like the design in January, we will probably proceed with further planning with the general contractor.
after I posted a question about the heat pump to be used a few days ago, I now want to continue with the main and fundamental thread regarding the floor plan.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 618 m² (6660 sq ft)
Slope: None
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: None
Building envelope, building line and boundary: See image
Peripheral development: No
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: up to 2
Roof shape: All allowed; for hip or gable roofs 25° - 50° pitch
Architectural style: None specified
Orientation: None specified
Maximum height / limits: 9 m ridge height (29.5 ft)
Other requirements: Photovoltaic system covering at least 50% of usable roof surface
Homeowner Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: "Urban villa but Northern German style"
Basement, floors: 2 full stories, no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people, 32, 32, 1, -2 years
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: Study (ground floor), Study/guest room (upper floor)
Office: Family use or home office? 1 office for full-time use, 1 additional as a guest room hybrid
Number of guest stay days per year: approx. 10-15 days, mostly family
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern construction: More modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Open kitchen, with island if it fits, otherwise U- or L-shaped
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Carport for 1 car
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are wanted or not: Nothing noteworthy
House Design
Who designed the plan: Planner (Architect?) of the general contractor (GC)
What do you particularly like and why?
- Straight staircase
- Covered entrance and terrace
- Spacious enough for our needs
What do you dislike and why?
- Ground floor WC probably too small
- Pantry doesn’t make much sense (maybe omit)
- Layout of the bathroom upstairs (we already have alternative ideas)
- Unsure if there is enough light in the living/dining area
- Slightly too big / bulky
- A bit too expensive
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 565,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 730,000 EUR (including garden, carport, photovoltaics, kitchen, additional costs)
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump is basically a must (no gas connection)
If you have to give up, which details / extras
- Can be skipped: open atrium, pantry, if necessary the type of covering on entrance and terrace (set back under the upper floor)
- Cannot be skipped: Storage space
Why did the design turn out the way it did?
Three-hour meeting with the architect at the general contractor, starting from a similar model house (this was a 1.5-story house with a gable roof), several iterations on tracing paper, then a week later the digital design was received.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Covered entrance and terrace set back under the upper floor, bedroom with dressing room, 2 studies (1 ground floor, 1 upper floor).
What do you think makes the design good or bad? Overall we quite like the whole package.
I’m looking forward to your opinions and am curious about what you think. If we still like the design in January, we will probably proceed with further planning with the general contractor.
HaseUndIgel schrieb:
Number of parking spaces: 2Where is the second parking space located, or do you count tandem parking spaces?
HaseUndIgel26 Dec 2024 18:51hanse987 schrieb:
Where is the second parking space, or do you count tandem parking spaces? We are still undecided whether two spaces in a row (so one essentially between the driveway and the carport) are sufficient. Is that what you mean by “tandem”?
Otherwise, we have paved an additional uncovered parking space on the west side in front of the utility room.
I don’t think the development plan specifies that both parking spaces have to be independently accessible. Is that usually a requirement?
HaseUndIgel26 Dec 2024 19:09hanse987 schrieb:
Where is the second parking space, or are trapped parking spaces accepted in your area?Answer part 2 (note to myself: Google first, then write):
I have now understood what trapped parking spaces are. Thanks for the hint, I had never heard of this before.
Neither the zoning plan nor the Lower Saxony building code explicitly mention this topic, so for now I don’t see an issue. I will ask the architect again at the next meeting; I believe they are quite familiar with the regulations.
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MachsSelbst26 Dec 2024 19:45The living room wastes a lot of space, which basically can only serve as a dance floor. But that’s due to the very large upper floor. A 26m² (280 sq ft) bedroom and dressing area, 19m² (205 sq ft) children’s room, plus a guest room—you really have to need all of that.
Do you have guests often enough that you can’t fold out the couch in the living room or accommodate them in the office?
My mother is very happy with the couch in the living room and stays with us around 30 to 35 days a year.
I have to smile about the exterior work.
25,000 (25k) will probably be needed for the entire exterior, including garden, hedge, tool shed, paving, etc.—that’s just for materials and tools; I’ll do the work myself.
For an attractive fence alone (no welded wire mesh or precast concrete elements), you can easily spend 25,000 to 30,000.
If we’re really talking about a completely finished garden, driveway, etc., done by a professional company—not "Handwerk 24/7 Poznan"—then a good standard will easily cost 60,000 to 70,000.
Regarding additional construction costs, it depends on what the general contractor states in the contract about the foundation.
If it says something like “30cm (12 inches) gravel base included, everything else extra,” then you can expect several tens of thousands more costs.
Utility connections won’t come in under 10,000 EUR either.
Do you have guests often enough that you can’t fold out the couch in the living room or accommodate them in the office?
My mother is very happy with the couch in the living room and stays with us around 30 to 35 days a year.
I have to smile about the exterior work.
25,000 (25k) will probably be needed for the entire exterior, including garden, hedge, tool shed, paving, etc.—that’s just for materials and tools; I’ll do the work myself.
For an attractive fence alone (no welded wire mesh or precast concrete elements), you can easily spend 25,000 to 30,000.
If we’re really talking about a completely finished garden, driveway, etc., done by a professional company—not "Handwerk 24/7 Poznan"—then a good standard will easily cost 60,000 to 70,000.
Regarding additional construction costs, it depends on what the general contractor states in the contract about the foundation.
If it says something like “30cm (12 inches) gravel base included, everything else extra,” then you can expect several tens of thousands more costs.
Utility connections won’t come in under 10,000 EUR either.
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MachsSelbst26 Dec 2024 19:52Oh, I see. For some, this might seem trivial... but almost 6 meters (20 feet) from the couch to the TV.
Even a 70-inch screen looks tiny at that distance.
Even a 70-inch screen looks tiny at that distance.
A trapped parking space definitely deserves its own consideration. If two cars are regularly in use, trapped parking spaces can often be very impractical.
Regarding the floor plan... hmm.
So, I think it needs to be revised.
Regarding the floor plan... hmm.
- Air space... that small one near the entrance... what is it supposed to be useful for? That would be an immediate elimination point.
- Floor-to-ceiling windows throughout the upper floor... with the planned furnishings, you can clearly see desks placed in front of the windows. This will also frequently expose wiring and cables. That would be a deal-breaker for me as well.
- The staircase is designed quite narrowly, with the upper floor overhanging the first two to three steps. A close look at the section is needed to check whether tall people might risk bumping their heads when coming down.
- Entrance slalom past the WC into the office. The main wardrobe is also there, and this is with two small children.
- Kitchen / dining... if arranged as planned, terrace access from this area is very impractical because the table is directly in the way.
- Master bedroom, unfortunately there are no dimensions given. I find bed placement with the headboard right next to the external doorway very critical. The hallway to the left of the bed also looks somewhat narrow.
- Children’s rooms are quite large.
- Bathroom with a floor-to-ceiling window facing the street—obviously, this will require privacy screening. The layout leaves too little space between the sink and the bathtub. However, dimensions are missing again for a more detailed assessment.
So, I think it needs to be revised.
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