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haeusle-in-bw13 Dec 2024 13:23Hello everyone,
We had a carpenter install a sliding door between the kitchen and the living/dining room. The door was supposed to fully disappear into the wall, but it actually sticks out about 10cm (4 inches) beyond the door frame. The installer’s explanation was that otherwise, the door couldn’t be pulled out of its slot since the recessed handle would always have to remain on the outside.
I thought there were small fold-out hooks or an additional recessed handle on the edge of the door panel for this purpose.
Unfortunately, we did not specify the sliding door details carefully, as I assumed it was standard practice for a built-in door like this to fully slide into the wall.
What are your thoughts?
And could a hook or recessed handle be retrofitted on the edge of the door panel with a reasonable amount of effort? Unfortunately, the guide rail at the bottom has already been screwed into the parquet flooring, so there would likely be visible drill holes left behind, as the rail would also have to be recessed into the wall.
Best regards
We had a carpenter install a sliding door between the kitchen and the living/dining room. The door was supposed to fully disappear into the wall, but it actually sticks out about 10cm (4 inches) beyond the door frame. The installer’s explanation was that otherwise, the door couldn’t be pulled out of its slot since the recessed handle would always have to remain on the outside.
I thought there were small fold-out hooks or an additional recessed handle on the edge of the door panel for this purpose.
Unfortunately, we did not specify the sliding door details carefully, as I assumed it was standard practice for a built-in door like this to fully slide into the wall.
What are your thoughts?
And could a hook or recessed handle be retrofitted on the edge of the door panel with a reasonable amount of effort? Unfortunately, the guide rail at the bottom has already been screwed into the parquet flooring, so there would likely be visible drill holes left behind, as the rail would also have to be recessed into the wall.
Best regards
Of course such things exist; someone is feeding you nonsense. When I built in 19190, I had two such doors, each with fold-away metal parts. Unfortunately, I no longer live there and can’t provide a photo, but they were recessed into the front face. The door was completely out of sight. I don’t know the exact name for the part, but every door or hinge manufacturer does.
Perhaps he simply didn’t leave enough space during installation to allow the door to disappear fully.
Can you even slide it in completely?
A door like this must be able to vanish entirely; otherwise, from my point of view, it’s unacceptable.
Anyone who calls themselves a carpenter these days should be ashamed. This is probably one of the more foolish attempts to mislead a homeowner.
Perhaps he simply didn’t leave enough space during installation to allow the door to disappear fully.
Can you even slide it in completely?
A door like this must be able to vanish entirely; otherwise, from my point of view, it’s unacceptable.
Anyone who calls themselves a carpenter these days should be ashamed. This is probably one of the more foolish attempts to mislead a homeowner.
Hal, I found this by chance; I actually wanted to photograph my friend, and it accidentally ended up in the picture.
You press the round button on the front edge, and then a metal square about 4cm by 4cm (1.6 inches by 1.6 inches) pops out, almost like a ring. You pull the door out by that and then push the square back in – click, and it’s done. There was still a separate handle plate as usual.
Show this to him – case closed.
The problem now is more likely the ill-conceived installation situation caused by it.
You press the round button on the front edge, and then a metal square about 4cm by 4cm (1.6 inches by 1.6 inches) pops out, almost like a ring. You pull the door out by that and then push the square back in – click, and it’s done. There was still a separate handle plate as usual.
Show this to him – case closed.
The problem now is more likely the ill-conceived installation situation caused by it.
In my case, the door almost fully recesses into the wall and it also has a fold-out loop at the end to pull it back out. On the side, it features recessed handles that disappear into the wall as well.
However, you can easily pinch your fingers if you grab the recessed handle and don’t let go in time before it slides into the wall. I have experienced this myself, and especially for children, it could be a safety risk. Perhaps this is why your door is designed this way.
However, you can easily pinch your fingers if you grab the recessed handle and don’t let go in time before it slides into the wall. I have experienced this myself, and especially for children, it could be a safety risk. Perhaps this is why your door is designed this way.
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nordanney13 Dec 2024 14:53haeusle-in-bw schrieb:
I thought there were small fold-out hooks or another milled grip recess on the front edge of the door leaf.
Unfortunately, we did not review the sliding door in detail; I assumed it was clear and “standard” for such a pocket door to completely recess into the wall.Yes, such hooks or similar do exist, as previous commenters have confirmed. But the problem is that you didn’t specifically discuss what should be supplied. There is no single standard for sliding doors. What you have is also standard, unfortunately (for you). You should never assume things or take them as given.The question will be how the door situation was technically implemented. It’s possible a system was used that doesn’t allow the door to recess further. Only the carpenter can clarify this for you. Maybe they will offer a price adjustment. I don’t see any entitlement to a change, since you received a fully functional door with a standard solution. If it is different from what you expected, that is your responsibility, not the carpenter’s.
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