ᐅ Single-family house floor plan with basement, 150 sqm, only one single-story level permitted
Created on: 24 Nov 2024 13:20
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GeraldG
Hello everyone,
we are approaching the final stage of the floor plan design and thought someone might take a look and provide some feedback.
What we wanted:
The house should be about 150-160 sqm (1,615-1,722 sq ft). Also, the attic level (according to the old development plan, i.e. the 2/3 rule in BW) must not count as a full story.
We actually like these Nordic-style houses with a central gable and also brick cladding, although we had to give up on the brick cladding because apparently no one here does it, and if they do, it’s incredibly expensive.
The architect advised us against a central bay window facing the garden because that would place one side of the terrace almost facing north.
Otherwise, we wanted a fairly classic layout:
An open living/kitchen/dining area, plus a shower restroom and an office on the ground floor. The attic should have two children’s bedrooms and a master bedroom. If there is space, also a walk-in closet and a large bathroom. I also wanted the knee wall to be as high as possible.
In the current round, the attached floor plans were developed. We only want to make minor adjustments now, so I thought this would be a good time for others to take a look.
There are several proposals for a laundry chute on WhatsApp.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Plot:
Ground floor:
Attic:
Basement:
3D views:
we are approaching the final stage of the floor plan design and thought someone might take a look and provide some feedback.
What we wanted:
The house should be about 150-160 sqm (1,615-1,722 sq ft). Also, the attic level (according to the old development plan, i.e. the 2/3 rule in BW) must not count as a full story.
We actually like these Nordic-style houses with a central gable and also brick cladding, although we had to give up on the brick cladding because apparently no one here does it, and if they do, it’s incredibly expensive.
The architect advised us against a central bay window facing the garden because that would place one side of the terrace almost facing north.
Otherwise, we wanted a fairly classic layout:
An open living/kitchen/dining area, plus a shower restroom and an office on the ground floor. The attic should have two children’s bedrooms and a master bedroom. If there is space, also a walk-in closet and a large bathroom. I also wanted the knee wall to be as high as possible.
In the current round, the attached floor plans were developed. We only want to make minor adjustments now, so I thought this would be a good time for others to take a look.
There are several proposals for a laundry chute on WhatsApp.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Plot:
Ground floor:
Attic:
Basement:
3D views:
So, my planner got back to me with a few more questions. We didn’t like the draft he initially brought.
During our discussion, we agreed on a design that he will now develop further.
I have already made some adjustments based on Katja’s proposal so I can show here what the plan looks like. Not much had to be changed.
The key was to move the bay window to the side. Since we have an 18m (59 feet) wide plot and need to keep a 3m (10 feet) setback, this is possible as long as the bay window is 1.5m (5 feet) deep and no wider than 5m (16 feet). The secondary structure can then be built up to 2m (6.5 feet) from the boundary line. This will still be reviewed.
The garage might be just a carport, depending on how it looks.
We really liked Katja’s upper floor plan and only want to make minor detail changes (not done yet):
We found a look that we like and will probably head in this direction:
Best regards
During our discussion, we agreed on a design that he will now develop further.
I have already made some adjustments based on Katja’s proposal so I can show here what the plan looks like. Not much had to be changed.
The key was to move the bay window to the side. Since we have an 18m (59 feet) wide plot and need to keep a 3m (10 feet) setback, this is possible as long as the bay window is 1.5m (5 feet) deep and no wider than 5m (16 feet). The secondary structure can then be built up to 2m (6.5 feet) from the boundary line. This will still be reviewed.
The garage might be just a carport, depending on how it looks.
We really liked Katja’s upper floor plan and only want to make minor detail changes (not done yet):
We found a look that we like and will probably head in this direction:
Best regards
GeraldG schrieb:
We really liked Katja’s upper floor and would only consider minimal changes in detail (which have not been made yet):However, I would skip moving the balcony on the bay window over.What still isn’t clear to me is the purpose of assigning the architect a reworking task here (and I caution against it, or rather encourage a complete redesign). This is pointless tinkering—trying to "rebuild" a drawing as if it were a physical building already constructed. You can simply crumple up a plan and recycle it, without generating a single gram of difficult-to-separate construction waste. So why this delicate handling (and guiding the pencil with tied hands)? — better go back to the drawing board, or at least as far as Südbahnhof!
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11ant schrieb:
However, I would not move the balcony on the bay window over, but leave it out. Yes, the balcony above the bay window will be removed. As far as I know, if the 3 m (10 ft) minimum distance is not met, you are not allowed to build a balcony there.
11ant schrieb:
that the architect receives a redrawing assignment here That’s not possible to the extent suggested. Of course, he has been commissioned to transfer it into his system so that further planning and all documents can be created from there. How he does this (shifting existing walls or redrawing) doesn’t matter to me, as long as the final plan looks like the one above.
GeraldG schrieb:
Yes, the balcony above the bay window will be removed. As far as I know, if the 3m (10 feet) limit is not met, you are not allowed to build a balcony there either. K a t j a schrieb:
You mean the pantry is considered a subordinate building element? I really can’t imagine that, but I don’t want to discourage you. The pantry certainly cannot be included in the building setback.
GeraldG schrieb:
Of course, he has been tasked with transferring it into his system so that further planning and document creation can continue from there. That’s exactly the reworking; I strongly advise against this sloppy approach.
GeraldG schrieb:
That’s also not possible to that extent. [...] I don’t care how he does it (shifting existing walls or redrawing), as long as the final plan looks like the one above. Clean code is the foundation of MTBF. This applies even to those with different beliefs.
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So,
I took the time to clarify the regulations applicable to us. Contrary to the initial statement from the town hall, although the 1968 Building Use Ordinance and the 1972 State Building Code apply to us, there is a transitional regulation for setback distances that refers to the current State Building Code. Accordingly, we only need to maintain a 2.5m (8 feet) distance from the property boundary, while bay windows (maximum 5m x 1.5m (16 feet x 5 feet) projecting from the wall) only need to keep a 2m (6.5 feet) distance. Boundary structures for garages and carports are limited to a maximum of 9m (30 feet) per side and 25sqm (269 sq ft) of wall surface.
Since the upper floor is quite clear, we are currently only planning the ground floor.
We have agreed on the layout as shown. The plan is from our designer; I only made the last requested changes, so it might look a bit shifted here and there.
The wall between the pantry and the bicycle garage will not be built later. The knee wall with this bay window is actually 1.5m (5 feet) high inside, which is almost full living space.
The hallway is a bit too large and open for my taste, but my wife is looking forward to it. In an emergency, you can of course simply add a wall there and possibly a double door. From my experience with my parents’ house, that door is hardly ever closed. A sideboard or something similar could also fit on the "T-wall" on the right side between the hallway, office, and living room.
We haven’t decided on the kitchen yet. I am moving away more and more from the cooking island since I usually find the extraction solutions for it frustrating. It also shouldn’t be placed in front of the window, so basically the only option left is the wall next to the pantry. The pantry door might be designed as a “hidden door.” So the door itself would look like a cabinet. Next to the door, I would place a large American-style refrigerator. A freezer chest will go in the pantry. We will plan the exact position of the pantry door soon, but it can easily be moved if needed.
I took the time to clarify the regulations applicable to us. Contrary to the initial statement from the town hall, although the 1968 Building Use Ordinance and the 1972 State Building Code apply to us, there is a transitional regulation for setback distances that refers to the current State Building Code. Accordingly, we only need to maintain a 2.5m (8 feet) distance from the property boundary, while bay windows (maximum 5m x 1.5m (16 feet x 5 feet) projecting from the wall) only need to keep a 2m (6.5 feet) distance. Boundary structures for garages and carports are limited to a maximum of 9m (30 feet) per side and 25sqm (269 sq ft) of wall surface.
Since the upper floor is quite clear, we are currently only planning the ground floor.
We have agreed on the layout as shown. The plan is from our designer; I only made the last requested changes, so it might look a bit shifted here and there.
The wall between the pantry and the bicycle garage will not be built later. The knee wall with this bay window is actually 1.5m (5 feet) high inside, which is almost full living space.
The hallway is a bit too large and open for my taste, but my wife is looking forward to it. In an emergency, you can of course simply add a wall there and possibly a double door. From my experience with my parents’ house, that door is hardly ever closed. A sideboard or something similar could also fit on the "T-wall" on the right side between the hallway, office, and living room.
We haven’t decided on the kitchen yet. I am moving away more and more from the cooking island since I usually find the extraction solutions for it frustrating. It also shouldn’t be placed in front of the window, so basically the only option left is the wall next to the pantry. The pantry door might be designed as a “hidden door.” So the door itself would look like a cabinet. Next to the door, I would place a large American-style refrigerator. A freezer chest will go in the pantry. We will plan the exact position of the pantry door soon, but it can easily be moved if needed.
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