ᐅ Floor Plan Review for a Semi-Detached House – General Optimization and Storage Solutions
Created on: 8 Dec 2024 18:28
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AllaFein
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 342 sqm (11 m x 31 m / 36 ft x 102 ft)
Floor area ratio: -
Floor space index: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 80 sqm footprint (external dimensions)
Edge development: The first builders submitting a building permit / planning permission may decide on house dimensions
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors, 1 attic, 1 basement
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style:
Orientation: kitchen northeast, living room southwest
Maximum heights/limits: wall height 6.75 m (22 ft)
Additional requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: semi-detached house, gable roof
Basement, floors: see above
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: room layout as desired in the floor plan
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with island in the northeast
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes, as shown
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes, max. 16 sqm (172 sq ft) terrace and 8 sqm (86 sq ft) balcony as per plan
Garage, carport: no garage, parking space only
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why some features are included or excluded:
To the northeast, there is a view of open fields where no construction is expected for the next 10-15 years and likely will remain open. We want to make use of this view while also addressing the senses in the southwest, where the living room is located.
House Design
Planner:
- Planner from a construction company: no
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself: yes
What do you like most and why?
What do you dislike and why?: We really like that the room layout matches our wishes exactly. However, the plan was copied 1:1, and we would appreciate feedback on whether what we have drawn is sensible.
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you had to give up certain details or features, which ones?
- Can give up: hallway width
- Cannot give up: ground floor bathroom, corner terrace + balcony
Why was the design made this way? For example:
Standard design from planner?: no, customized
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
Room layout, corner terrace
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
Good: wishes were taken into account. But is there room for optimization regarding storage? Are the bathrooms large enough?
Important to know: on the ground floor, the pantry is planned on the left side without a wall. That means the kitchen is 460 cm (181 inches) wide and the pantry 120 cm (47 inches). The bathroom on the upper floor in the northeast is also planned to have a partition wall for a utility room about 140 cm (55 inches) wide.
Looking forward to your feedback!
Plot size: 342 sqm (11 m x 31 m / 36 ft x 102 ft)
Floor area ratio: -
Floor space index: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 80 sqm footprint (external dimensions)
Edge development: The first builders submitting a building permit / planning permission may decide on house dimensions
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors, 1 attic, 1 basement
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style:
Orientation: kitchen northeast, living room southwest
Maximum heights/limits: wall height 6.75 m (22 ft)
Additional requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: semi-detached house, gable roof
Basement, floors: see above
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: room layout as desired in the floor plan
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with island in the northeast
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes, as shown
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes, max. 16 sqm (172 sq ft) terrace and 8 sqm (86 sq ft) balcony as per plan
Garage, carport: no garage, parking space only
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why some features are included or excluded:
To the northeast, there is a view of open fields where no construction is expected for the next 10-15 years and likely will remain open. We want to make use of this view while also addressing the senses in the southwest, where the living room is located.
House Design
Planner:
- Planner from a construction company: no
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself: yes
What do you like most and why?
What do you dislike and why?: We really like that the room layout matches our wishes exactly. However, the plan was copied 1:1, and we would appreciate feedback on whether what we have drawn is sensible.
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you had to give up certain details or features, which ones?
- Can give up: hallway width
- Cannot give up: ground floor bathroom, corner terrace + balcony
Why was the design made this way? For example:
Standard design from planner?: no, customized
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
Room layout, corner terrace
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
Good: wishes were taken into account. But is there room for optimization regarding storage? Are the bathrooms large enough?
Important to know: on the ground floor, the pantry is planned on the left side without a wall. That means the kitchen is 460 cm (181 inches) wide and the pantry 120 cm (47 inches). The bathroom on the upper floor in the northeast is also planned to have a partition wall for a utility room about 140 cm (55 inches) wide.
Looking forward to your feedback!
Ok, this makes it a bit easier to visualize.
But let me address the issue with the unrealistic furnishings.
Kitchen: On a 3-meter (10 feet) wide wall, you can fit 5 tall cabinets, not 7 as shown. However, considering the door to the pantry and the corner, there are really only about 2.5 usable cabinet widths left.
5.30 meters (17 feet 5 inches) minus 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) leaves 3.50 meters (11 feet 6 inches). The tall cabinets start from the 1.80 meter section. That leaves 5.5 base cabinets for countertop and workspace, including the stove and sink. How practical are these tall cabinets? The top left space is unusable, and neither is the door to the pantry.
The island can only be at most 1.50 meters (5 feet) wide.
You have a basement. Either you use it accordingly or you don’t. I don’t see any living space there at the moment. It remains a utility basement.
I see no advantage in taking away space and functionality from the kitchen or turning the bathroom into just a utility bathroom.
I consider the upper floor completely cramped. Why not move out the upper right corner and make the terrace a covered terrace?
Are there no load-bearing walls from this floor upwards?
My advice: explicitly draw your furniture to scale. Then you can clearly see the shortcomings.
Skip the pantry in the basement and the utility room on the upper floor. Plan proper rooms that are optimally rectangular. Give the kids the upper floor and take the attic for yourself as parents.
What are your wishes exactly? There’s not much information here.
Storage? You have the basement, that’s enough storage space.
The planner (actually, calling them an architect would be generous—I mostly see DIY here) should draw in the desired sanitary fixtures. And include the waste and ventilation pipes right away. It’s not acceptable that the client is expected to figure out how everything should be correctly connected to the drainage system.
But let me address the issue with the unrealistic furnishings.
Kitchen: On a 3-meter (10 feet) wide wall, you can fit 5 tall cabinets, not 7 as shown. However, considering the door to the pantry and the corner, there are really only about 2.5 usable cabinet widths left.
5.30 meters (17 feet 5 inches) minus 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) leaves 3.50 meters (11 feet 6 inches). The tall cabinets start from the 1.80 meter section. That leaves 5.5 base cabinets for countertop and workspace, including the stove and sink. How practical are these tall cabinets? The top left space is unusable, and neither is the door to the pantry.
The island can only be at most 1.50 meters (5 feet) wide.
You have a basement. Either you use it accordingly or you don’t. I don’t see any living space there at the moment. It remains a utility basement.
I see no advantage in taking away space and functionality from the kitchen or turning the bathroom into just a utility bathroom.
I consider the upper floor completely cramped. Why not move out the upper right corner and make the terrace a covered terrace?
Are there no load-bearing walls from this floor upwards?
My advice: explicitly draw your furniture to scale. Then you can clearly see the shortcomings.
Skip the pantry in the basement and the utility room on the upper floor. Plan proper rooms that are optimally rectangular. Give the kids the upper floor and take the attic for yourself as parents.
AllaFein schrieb:
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes? Good: wishes were taken into account. But: is optimization regarding storage possible?
What are your wishes exactly? There’s not much information here.
Storage? You have the basement, that’s enough storage space.
AllaFein schrieb:
Are the bathrooms large enough?
The planner (actually, calling them an architect would be generous—I mostly see DIY here) should draw in the desired sanitary fixtures. And include the waste and ventilation pipes right away. It’s not acceptable that the client is expected to figure out how everything should be correctly connected to the drainage system.
What exactly is being covered at the top right of the plan at a height of over 7 meters (23 feet)?
A bathroom of 3 x 3 meters (10 x 10 feet) with 2 openings/doors and one window... and probably the desire for a walk-in shower, etc.
There are two guest rooms. They are probably placeholder rooms.
In the end, you need to ask again: what are your wishes, what is your room layout, what is your budget, and what is included just because of Pinterest?
A bathroom of 3 x 3 meters (10 x 10 feet) with 2 openings/doors and one window... and probably the desire for a walk-in shower, etc.
There are two guest rooms. They are probably placeholder rooms.
In the end, you need to ask again: what are your wishes, what is your room layout, what is your budget, and what is included just because of Pinterest?
11ant schrieb:
If you include a basement, you should build on the side of the neighbor owning half the plot (and in general: coordinate the house profile at the bonding edge), see the Goalkeeper thread and the topic of underpinning. If my calculations are correct, the setback from the boundary is about 15cm (6 inches) too small. I felt a bit uneasy right after sending it: I had forgotten to mention the shoddy workmanship pockets!
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hanghaus20239 Dec 2024 14:29Somehow, there are doors missing, and I also can’t find the building line.
I’m missing the information about the slope?
You should consider firing the architect.
I’m missing the information about the slope?
You should consider firing the architect.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
I’m missing the information about the slope? And what if there isn’t one? Why should you mention something that doesn’t exist? The biotope is also not mentioned because it doesn’t exist. You can’t complain about that, can you?!
When re-reading the initial thread regarding a “mentioned slope,” this caught my attention:
AllaFein schrieb:
What is not liked? Why?: great that the layout was made exactly according to our wishes. But the plan was simply copied 1:1 Even if the OP @AllaFein no longer responds here, a few brief words:
It is definitely not great when a) a layperson tells the professional what to do, b) assumes they can do what others have trained for years, and c) in doing so basically burns the professional out.
Apparently, for this reason, doors and sanitary installations are missing: he simply left out the items you yourselves didn’t consider. Don’t be surprised if he stubbornly switched off his brain and drew in your mistakes or left out something important. You get exactly the house that you, as laypeople, have designed—no more, no less.
Maybe he will be willing to do the work for you after you apologize to him.
Or you pay your tuition fee, write down your room requirements during detention, and hand them over to the next one.
Now it all makes sense: you don’t have a room program, you didn’t think enough in advance, and now you’re drawing pointless rooms.
AllaFein schrieb:
whether what we drew is even sensible. No.
AllaFein schrieb:
Perimeter development: the first homebuilders who submit their building application get to decide the house dimensions It probably means that in the case of semi-detached houses, the first applicant sets the standard to which the other half must conform.
1. You urgently need to get to know this neighbor and then plan together!
2. Please quote the exact wording from the zoning plan / development plan.
AllaFein schrieb:
Who created the design:
- Planner from a construction company: no
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-Yourself: yes
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?: great that the layout was done exactly according to our wishes. But the plan was simply adopted 1:1 and we would like some opinions on whether what we have drawn up actually makes sense. "I believe 'Architect yes / draftsman no' is both unlikely, probably the other way around."
ypg schrieb:
It is definitely not great when a) a layperson tells the expert what to do, b) thinks they can do what others have studied for many years, and c) practically burns out a professional in the process. That is more of a flat cap than a professional. Less because of errors in the drawings, but mainly because an architect, in the proper sense, also has a duty of care to properly advise the client.
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