Hello,
we have a walk-in shower. The screed was naturally installed with a slope so that the water flows into the drain channel. Now the problem is that apparently the screed outside the shower area has settled, causing even a slight slope there. As a result, all the water outside the shower area flows toward the wall. Since we don’t have a glass door or similar barrier, this can happen quite easily.
My questions
- Is this a construction-related defect? Are there current standards requiring specific precautions in the bathroom area (the house was built a few years ago)?
- Are there any ideas on how to solve this problem?
Thank you very much!
we have a walk-in shower. The screed was naturally installed with a slope so that the water flows into the drain channel. Now the problem is that apparently the screed outside the shower area has settled, causing even a slight slope there. As a result, all the water outside the shower area flows toward the wall. Since we don’t have a glass door or similar barrier, this can happen quite easily.
My questions
- Is this a construction-related defect? Are there current standards requiring specific precautions in the bathroom area (the house was built a few years ago)?
- Are there any ideas on how to solve this problem?
Thank you very much!
KlaRa schrieb:
Random guessing and “oh, it’s not a big deal” are not helpful answers. Did someone actually write that? No.
KlaRa schrieb:
Which of the smart people here is actually asking what might be causing the “settling of the screed,” That’s why a photo was requested! Until #x, no one (except the original poster) knew which screed was meant — the one in the shower or the one in the entire room.
Hausbaer schrieb:
I don’t have a photo handy right now You can quickly take one with your phone.
Hausbaer schrieb:
and I don’t really feel comfortable posting a photo of my bathroom online right now. Because then everyone would know how an anonymous house builder lives?! Well... nobody really cares. You’re not letting the contractor into your bathroom either?
Hausbaer schrieb:
so that all the water from showering (we don’t have a glass door, meaning water easily splashes out) Anyway: I have no idea how long your shower is. That would actually be interesting to know.
No idea how much flow your shower head has, that so much water comes out that — which is normal at first — the water inside the shower collects enough to reach the edge of the walk-in shower and then spills into the room.
For us, a walk-in shower is a shower with a floor-to-ceiling drain and two meters (6.6 feet) deep, and even my husband doesn’t have this problem. He showers for a long time with 42°C (108°F) water at a strong flow rate.
Since screed can of course settle (for whatever reason), the question is why your water does not drain along the slope of the shower floor, but instead collects and finds its way out — wherever that may be.
That’s the first thing I would check, because that’s basically the problem.
Have you cleaned the drain yet?
ypg schrieb:
Have you ever cleaned the drain?That was a genuine question and should be considered and answered just as carefully as your question to @Hausbaer. There are quite a few people here interested in what might be causing your problem.
nordanney schrieb:
Has the joint to the wall cracked?No, the silicone joint has not cracked.
ypg schrieb:
Since the screed can naturally settle (for whatever reason), the question is why your water does not drain along the slope of the floor, but instead collects and finds its way somewhere else.
That’s the first thing I would check because that is basically the core problem.
Have you cleaned the drain yet?Yes, I have, but the problem only occurs if water gets into the non-shower area for some reason. If you shower so that the water stays within the shower area, everything drains perfectly. However, if you are not careful and water gets outside the shower area, or water gets outside for any other reason, the slope in the non-shower area causes the water to flow toward the wall. I quickly sketched something to illustrate the situation.
ypg schrieb:
And how long is the shower area? approximately 1.30 m (4 ft 3 in)
kbt09 schrieb:
.. and additionally, how long is the area to the left side of the plan? @Hausbaer ... we don’t know your bathroom. You are describing what seems important to you at the moment in words, expecting answers, but not providing an overall picture. It is normal that I first share the information relevant to me. My question was simply whether stricter measures apply in the bathroom area regarding the leveling of the screed and whether a slope outside the shower area is considered a construction defect for which the contractor can be held liable. I did not consider the requested information (photos + measurements) relevant for this but treated it as an abstract question.
I believe I have already received my answer in post https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/estrich-ausserhalb-des-duschbereiches-abgesackt.48454/post-676698 and I thank everyone who has contributed here.
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