ᐅ Single-family house floor plan with basement, 150 sqm, only one single-story level permitted

Created on: 24 Nov 2024 13:20
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GeraldG
Hello everyone,

we are approaching the final stage of the floor plan design and thought someone might take a look and provide some feedback.
What we wanted:

The house should be about 150-160 sqm (1,615-1,722 sq ft). Also, the attic level (according to the old development plan, i.e. the 2/3 rule in BW) must not count as a full story.
We actually like these Nordic-style houses with a central gable and also brick cladding, although we had to give up on the brick cladding because apparently no one here does it, and if they do, it’s incredibly expensive.
The architect advised us against a central bay window facing the garden because that would place one side of the terrace almost facing north.
Otherwise, we wanted a fairly classic layout:
An open living/kitchen/dining area, plus a shower restroom and an office on the ground floor. The attic should have two children’s bedrooms and a master bedroom. If there is space, also a walk-in closet and a large bathroom. I also wanted the knee wall to be as high as possible.
In the current round, the attached floor plans were developed. We only want to make minor adjustments now, so I thought this would be a good time for others to take a look.

There are several proposals for a laundry chute on WhatsApp.

I would appreciate your feedback.

Plot:

Luftbild eines Grundstücks mit roter Umrandung und Baufenster 18m x 16m


Ground floor:

Grundriss eines Wohnhauses: Diele, Küche, Essen/Wohnen, Büro, Vorrat, Du/WC, Terrasse.


Attic:

Grundriss eines Dachgeschosses mit Schlafzimmer, zwei Kinderzimmern, Bad, Flur und Balkon.


Basement:

Grundriss eines Gebäudes: Hobbyraum (32,2 m²) Flur, Technikraum, Abstellräume und Treppenhaus.


3D views:

Drei 3D-Ansichten eines modernen weißen Hauses mit Terrasse und Garten.
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Schorsch_baut
24 Nov 2024 19:15
We have a solid oak table that is 2 meters (6 ft 7 in) long and can be extended to 3.20 meters (10 ft 6 in). For four people, the 2 meters (6 ft 7 in) is more than enough. During family gatherings, we turn it 90 degrees, allowing 10 to 12 people to sit around it. Currently, the dining table takes up almost as much space as the entire kitchen in the layout. For me, the loss of workspace in the kitchen is not worth it. With five people in the household, the walking area in the kitchen—the space everyone has to pass through when hunger or thirst calls, or to get to the pantry—is really tight.
K a t j a24 Nov 2024 22:45
Sorry, I just can’t get on board with this. You’ve packed so many requirements into this symmetrical box that it feels cramped and uncomfortable everywhere. The previous commenters have already said quite a bit about it. For me, the absolute deal-breaker is Child Room 2. It’s a terrible space. I wouldn’t spend a single cent on it.

At first, I thought I’d show how to reduce the hallway upstairs to make the bedroom larger. But the whole design is too poor to bother tweaking.
11ant25 Nov 2024 18:14
GeraldG schrieb:

We are approaching the final stage of the floor plan design and thought maybe someone could take a look and give some feedback.
What we wanted: [...] In the current version, the attached floor plans were created. We would only change minor details here, which is why I thought now would be a good time to let others review them.

I’ve heard the funny en/ne sound swap before but never seen it written down. Unfortunately, now is a bad time, because you should have involved us much earlier (which would also have been much cheaper for you).
GeraldG schrieb:

We actually like those Nordic houses with a central gable and also brick cladding, although we gave up on the brick cladding since apparently no one does that where we are, and if they do, it’s incredibly expensive. Towards the garden, he advised against the central bay window because otherwise one side of the terrace would face almost north. [...] I also wanted the knee wall to be as high as possible.

Herring in the land of Maultaschen (Swabian ravioli), that’s unnecessary. A plastered facade softens that somewhat. A knee wall “as high as possible” is often more harmful than helpful, so I would remove this requirement from the specifications. The symmetry here, which is already quite compromised, should also be dropped, as well as the redundancy of the captains.

Why should I list three dozen complaints here? It’s better to just let the design be forgotten mercifully. Don’t start again with the new beginning by completely reversing your priorities. And spare yourself the basement, which the site does not require at all. So: all new things come in November!
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Arauki11
25 Nov 2024 18:44
ypg schrieb:

There is the basement staircase.
Oops... I completely missed that.

The more I read here, the more I notice that an increasing number of homeowners consider certain features essential, such as a door to the garage, a balcony, a specific roof shape/gable, or stair design. This often spoils an otherwise possible, nice floor plan or blows the budget, and in the end, when it comes to the design, both financially and mentally, they run out of steam. But the point is that the rooms should fit me perfectly—my habits, the desire for flowers in the house, a designed windowsill, or a certain seating arrangement at the dining table, down to the topic of TV/audio and wall decoration.
I hope the original poster will forgive me, but a house doesn’t appear Nordic just because of one particular gable; it takes a whole concept—possibly including brickwork (clinker), exterior design, windows, and the interior spaces—a complete concept, really.
Otherwise, as often seen, people build some flat-roofed building and believe they are living in the Bauhaus style, or the occupant of a “city villa” might assume they are actually living in a villa.
If this forum can help some homeowners to recognize these marketing tricks and unnecessary superficial features, maybe we will see more completely normal houses again, but carefully planned, with real style, and equipped with less money—yet full of individual imagination.
I stand by this: leave out the frills here, focus on a suitable floor plan, and clad the house in a Nordic-style brick façade, also implementing the rest of a style that one should study and understand the meaning of.
That can work if you give priority to the style, limit yourself to essential features, and consistently remove expensive gimmicks. Then you really have a house in the desired Nordic style and not a mix of Gelsenkirchen Baroque and Tyrolean Bauhaus.
Unfortunately, we only see pictures from earlier projects here on the forum, but there you find some houses, even with modest fittings, that have a special style and an eye for beauty—definitely not the typical must-haves of today.
And... where brick (clinker) is typical for the building type, you also find people who know how to do it.
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Schorsch_baut
25 Nov 2024 18:54
A few years ago, it was the "granny flats" that were essential, but now it’s the two home offices. Maybe I’m just a bit envious, since I can work from home at most one or two days per month. But when I think about the extra cost in construction and how employers basically save that money, it’s really a double-edged sword. Especially if one day you have to return to the office full-time.
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Arauki11
25 Nov 2024 18:54
11ant schrieb:

Matjes in the land of Maultaschen, that’s not necessary
Exactly!
Oops... missed something again, just read "BW." Now we’re already at the first Pinterest bomb. Of course, not many people here can do this, because in BW (Baden-Württemberg) such constructions were practically never built; instead, for example, wood was often preferred. Why would anyone put an average copy of a Tuscan villa in a residential area on the Baltic Sea coast and then, on top of that, put two Greek columns in front of the door?
Very close to us there is a bunker like that—you can clearly tell where the builder vacationed before. I could laugh out loud every time.
Build what the local companies are capable of and put your energy into a great floor plan—there is so much potential for improvement.