ᐅ Floor plan of a detached single-family house with 2,585 sq ft, including a 807 sq ft granny flat and a garage
Created on: 13 Nov 2024 19:36
K
Koehler
Hello everyone,
we want to build a house. I was able to get the plot from my mother, and in return, she will have her own apartment (granny flat) within the house. There will be two separate entrance doors to the house as a precaution. My previous post was here, but personal, political, and building authority issues have caused significant delays, which have had both positive and negative effects.
Development Plan / Restrictions (Requests from the Building Authority since there is no formal development plan)
Plot size: approx. 1300m² (at least 1/4 for the granny flat)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: no formal development plan
Site coverage ratio: no formal development plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary: no formal development plan, but the building authority requests at least 3 meters (10 feet) from the street
Peripheral construction: maximum 9.0 m (30 feet) for garages up to 3.0 m (10 feet) high
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two floors without a finished attic
Roof style: preliminary building application was for a gable roof with no dormers; according to the building authority, maximum roof pitch is 35°
Architectural style: no specification
Orientation: no specification
Maximum height/limits: 10.20 m (33.5 feet) (in discussions with the building authority, please not higher than 10.5 m (34.4 feet))
Other requirements: residential building should not become larger
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors
Number of people, age: currently 1+1 persons, 36 (myself) and mother 60 (granny flat occupant)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: self: 240m² (2583 sq ft) + granny flat: 75m² (807 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? both home office
Guests per year: occasionally 2 adults + 2 children
Open or closed design: open design
Traditional or modern construction: rather modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both with open kitchen and kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6 own + 4 in granny flat
Fireplace: yes, in both apartments
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary
Garage, carport: garage, no garage or carport for granny flat
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for certain preferences:
House Design
Who designed it: DIY by myself, now finalized by architect
What do you like most and why? Majority of walls overlap
What do you dislike and why? Now only the chimney remains in the granny flat or upper floor
Price estimate according to architect/planner: not available yet
Personal budget limit for house including features: (total) 700,000 + significant own contribution and family help
Preferred heating technology: fireplace and air heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you give up: second floor and garage will be built later
-can you not give up: fireplace in both apartments
Why is the design as it is now? e.g.
Standard design by planner? Plan from Virtus, Team Massivhaus, and own ideas
Corresponding / which wishes were implemented by the architect?
My apartment:
Granny flat:
Wishes:
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
Bad:
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
we want to build a house. I was able to get the plot from my mother, and in return, she will have her own apartment (granny flat) within the house. There will be two separate entrance doors to the house as a precaution. My previous post was here, but personal, political, and building authority issues have caused significant delays, which have had both positive and negative effects.
Development Plan / Restrictions (Requests from the Building Authority since there is no formal development plan)
Plot size: approx. 1300m² (at least 1/4 for the granny flat)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: no formal development plan
Site coverage ratio: no formal development plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary: no formal development plan, but the building authority requests at least 3 meters (10 feet) from the street
Peripheral construction: maximum 9.0 m (30 feet) for garages up to 3.0 m (10 feet) high
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: two floors without a finished attic
Roof style: preliminary building application was for a gable roof with no dormers; according to the building authority, maximum roof pitch is 35°
Architectural style: no specification
Orientation: no specification
Maximum height/limits: 10.20 m (33.5 feet) (in discussions with the building authority, please not higher than 10.5 m (34.4 feet))
Other requirements: residential building should not become larger
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors
Number of people, age: currently 1+1 persons, 36 (myself) and mother 60 (granny flat occupant)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: self: 240m² (2583 sq ft) + granny flat: 75m² (807 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? both home office
Guests per year: occasionally 2 adults + 2 children
Open or closed design: open design
Traditional or modern construction: rather modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both with open kitchen and kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6 own + 4 in granny flat
Fireplace: yes, in both apartments
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary
Garage, carport: garage, no garage or carport for granny flat
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for certain preferences:
- No skylights
- Solar panels later
- Option for holiday apartment at a later stage
House Design
Who designed it: DIY by myself, now finalized by architect
What do you like most and why? Majority of walls overlap
What do you dislike and why? Now only the chimney remains in the granny flat or upper floor
Price estimate according to architect/planner: not available yet
Personal budget limit for house including features: (total) 700,000 + significant own contribution and family help
Preferred heating technology: fireplace and air heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you give up: second floor and garage will be built later
-can you not give up: fireplace in both apartments
Why is the design as it is now? e.g.
Standard design by planner? Plan from Virtus, Team Massivhaus, and own ideas
Corresponding / which wishes were implemented by the architect?
My apartment:
- Parents’ bedroom (only one door) + dressing room + private bathroom (shower and large bathtub)
- 3 children’s rooms (min. 16m² (172 sq ft)) with separate bathroom (shower + bathtub)
- 2 offices
- Living room (min. 20m² (215 sq ft)) with fireplace
- Kitchen (min. 15m² (161 sq ft)) + kitchen island
- Dining room for 5 persons
- Bathroom downstairs + shower
- 1 sauna inside in the attic (or outside)
Granny flat:
- Standard with office
Wishes:
- A separate room/hallway between bathroom and living areas
- All rooms to have windows (at least the bathrooms)
- Laundry room (upstairs or attic)
- Access to garden (west and north)
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
- Good: almost symmetrical arrangement of windows and doors
- Separation into up to 4 sections possible later in case of emergency
- Bedroom and laundry room upstairs to avoid carrying laundry through whole apartment
- No skylights
- All bathrooms have windows
Bad:
- Office downstairs can only be used as bedroom if storage is built under the stairs
- Since the driveway is on the south side, the house has now been rotated
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
- Was anything overlooked in the plan?
- Where should the chimney in the granny flat be placed?
- Is the dressing room too large?
- Should the garage be rotated?
nagner99 schrieb:
I can partially understand your frustration that some people here automatically dismiss and ridicule anything that deviates from their own ideas.
Unfortunately, I can’t provide any input on your floor plan, ...To be honest, this is like the clueless explaining the world to the uninformed (although I do appreciate your comment on the budget).If I understand correctly, the original poster (OP) wants to build a single story first and add another floor later. So, they would just remove the roof, throw it away, and build a new roof? Or do they plan to demolish everything and then rebuild? You can do that if money is no issue. But in that case, why not just build two stories from the start and leave the top floor unfinished?
And for a potential family, where the future partner apparently has to accept having the mother-in-law as a neighbor, they are planning 240 sqm (about 2,583 sq ft), though the budget will likely not be enough. Should she bring the rest of the money? Then I wish them good luck with the relationship.
Add to that statements like:
Koehler schrieb:
Unfortunately or fortunately, there is no building regulation here. I have to prove at least one driveway where at least two cars can park for the two housing units.
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Since we are planning a single-family house with a granny flat and not a multi-family building, this is irrelevant for us.
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It’s a village in the East with no requirements, and so far everyone has built as they wanted.
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... and no discussion about possible building codes or family planning. ... If someone has a suggestion for the chimney that currently blocks the upstairs door, I would be very grateful. I don’t know what’s more sad: the plan in #1, the lack of basic construction knowledge, the life planning, or the spelling?To maybe push things forward a bit, here is my recommendation: either build a single-story house with two housing units, where the roof can be converted later, or build a standard single-family house with a bungalow or extension next to it.
Consider planning a bungalow with two separate living units—one for your mother and one for yourself. If you need more space later because a partner moves in, you can finish the attic.
If the attic space still isn’t enough, you can add an extension.
The large structure needs to be maintained, regardless of whether it is occupied or not.
Are you sure your local authority doesn’t require parking space regulations or something similar?
If the attic space still isn’t enough, you can add an extension.
The large structure needs to be maintained, regardless of whether it is occupied or not.
Are you sure your local authority doesn’t require parking space regulations or something similar?
Before building new in the village in MV, I first look for vacant existing buildings with 300 sqm (3,229 sq ft) of living space (old school, daycare, post office, farmstead), convert them into 2 apartments, and have a reserve for the future. Is there really nothing available?
K a t j a schrieb:
If I understand correctly, the original poster only wants to build one floor initially and add more later. So then they would just take off the roof, throw it away, and build a new one? Or do they plan to demolish everything and rebuild afterwards? That kind of approach is possible if money isn’t an issue. But if that’s the case, they could just build two floors from the start and leave the upper one unfinished. I must have missed such an ambitious plan. I assumed that the large box would be constructed as an exterior plastered shell with interior finishing only on the ground floor, and the upper floors would be finished internally over the course of several decades on weekends (?)
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Arauki11 schrieb:
Which ones exactly...? There are thousands, and understandably everyone has a different idea of what that means. Thank you very much for all your comments. Now I understand that the introduction here was unfortunately not suitable for me, which is why so many comments missed the point of my question.
K a t j a schrieb:
If I understand correctly, the original poster only wants to build one floor initially and add another later. And then they just remove the roof, throw it away, and build a new roof? Or do they dismantle everything and rebuild? You can do that if money is not an issue. But in that case, you might as well build two floors right away and leave the upper floor unfinished. That is the plan, but I now understand that no one here can help me without going into more detail, and that this topic can be closed here.
As I said, this can be closed now because I will discuss it further with the architect and do not want to waste your time.
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nordanney19 Nov 2024 12:55Koehler schrieb:
This is the plan,This is not a plan, it’s madness. Both financially and in terms of planning.Similar topics