ᐅ Dream Home Floor Plan – 173 m² with 3 Children’s Bedrooms

MachsSelbst schrieb:


If what’s described in the brackets counts as a slightly upgraded finish for you, achieving 3,000 EUR/m² (about 280 USD/ft²) ready to move in... forget it.

We requested quotes from 8 suppliers and received offers ranging roughly from 2,900 to 4,200 EUR/m² (270 to 390 USD/ft²). I was surprised by the higher end of that range. Usually, those were the manufacturers that only build a few dozen houses.

Arauki11 schrieb:

Dear OP, I really wonder if you have some kind of masochistic streak.

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What will you do if most of the responses turn out to be critical?

Thank you.

Regarding your second question: I expect that as well. By now, I’m quite thick-skinned when it comes to this, and that’s why I usually wouldn’t even post here. As mentioned, I’ve been reading along for quite some time already.

SoL schrieb:

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My highlight is the balcony that can only be accessed through the utility room. I’ve never seen anything like that before (and for good reason).

Very good. These are the points I also don’t like so much. Don’t worry, you don’t have to follow up. Still, a short explanation:

• The “Speise” is called that but is intended more as a storage room.
• We’re still not entirely sure whether to keep the door between the entrance hall and kitchen or just remove it completely. Otherwise, it will be a double swing door.
• The balcony is planned for drying laundry. Of course, that wasn’t my idea, but I’m accepting it for household peace. It’s still an optional feature. It costs significantly less on the entrance side than usual.

I just realized that I don’t see the issue with the front windows and doors in the same way, but the exterior appearance was not very important to us.

roteweste schrieb:

At the entrance hallway/kitchen area, we are still unsure whether to leave out the door completely. Otherwise, it will be a double swing door.

I would strongly consider making the passage a bit narrower and planning for a sliding door running along the hallway instead. Swing door into the kitchen... because of the direction of traffic coming from the stairs, people would mostly use the door aligned with the wall, and behind it there would be a kitchen cabinet. Not a good idea.

Otherwise, I’m not very happy with the bathroom either—on one hand, it feels somewhat cramped, and on the other, there is a long empty stretch.

In the master bedroom, you probably need the closet space, but I find the headboard next to the entrance door rather awkward and somewhat disruptive.

I would also consider adding an east-facing window to the child’s bedroom on the right side of the plan.

The mandatory access to the garage naturally reduces storage space in the utility/technical room because of the circulation path.

In general, when planning the garage, check whether the bicycles can fit between the cars with the proposed layout.

Other than that, I like it… no floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor, and the basic room layout seems appropriate.

ypg schrieb:

We are not here to play guessing games or to hurt anyone’s pride.

You just have to ask; I’m happy to answer. Of course, I have already put a lot of thought into this, which you can also read about on my website. Some things are certainly good, others less so.

@kbt09: Thank you for your ideas.

kbt09 schrieb:

I would seriously consider making the passage a bit narrower and planning a sliding door along the hallway instead.
Swing door to the kitchen... because of the direction from the stairs, people would mostly use the door aligned with the plan, and there is a kitchen cabinet right behind it. Not a good idea.

We’ve been going back and forth on that for a long time. We’ve decided against the sliding door because, in our view, it only makes sense if it is opened and closed rarely. In everyday use it would practically be 99.9% open. I would just leave out the door here for now.

kbt09 schrieb:
Otherwise, I don’t really like the bathroom either — it feels a bit cramped on one hand, and then there’s a long empty stretch.

The bathroom fits two pieces of furniture (next to the door and in the southeast corner). That was important to us. We actually tried various layouts. Bathrooms are tricky.

kbt09 schrieb:
Master bedroom — you probably need the closet space, but I find the headboard right next to the door not ideal and a bit disturbing.

I hadn’t thought about that before. But it could definitely be rotated. It should still just fit with our current closet size of 3.5 meters (11.5 feet).

kbt09 schrieb:
I would consider adding an east-facing window to the child’s bedroom on the plan-right side.

That did come to mind, but we rejected it. Reason: loss of usable space, and the middle child’s room would be at a disadvantage. Maybe enlarging the double windows in both rooms instead. From our point of view, it’s not necessary.

kbt09 schrieb:
The mandatory garage access naturally reduces storage space in the utility room because of the traffic flow.

In my opinion, that’s a fundamental trade-off: you have to accept either access or storage space. Since we have the laundry room separately, the space is sufficient for us.

kbt09 schrieb:
In general, check in the garage if the planned layout allows bicycles to fit between the cars.

Bikes and trash bins are just placeholders in the drawing. The bins will be handled differently, and the bikes will only be used if the kids insist.

kbt09 schrieb:
Otherwise, I like it... no floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs, and the overall room layout seems appropriate.

Thanks. That was by far the most important thing for us: privacy upstairs and well-designed rooms.

roteweste schrieb:

We requested quotes from 8 providers and received offers ranging from about 2,900 to 4,200 per square meter. I was surprised by how high the prices go. These were often manufacturers that only build a few dozen houses.

Quotes based on what kind of inquiry? A detailed tender from an architect?
I am more surprised by the low outlier. With such bait offers, you can be sure that additional costs will follow. €3,000 per square meter plus all additional expenses, landscaping, etc., are not feasible with your requirements – at least not economically for the provider preparing the quote.

The 3000 euros is the price for the turnkey house. Excluding the foundation slab, earthworks, garage, and photovoltaic system (which is mandatory here). The average of the offers was around 3200 euros per square meter. We had three significant outliers on the higher side. The basis of the inquiry was the design planning and a 3-page list of our desired features.

roteweste schrieb:

The 3,000 euros is the price for the turnkey house. Without the foundation slab,

Okay – so the construction costs are clearly over 3,000 €/m² (around $272 per sq ft). Because the foundation slab (including footing, insulation underneath, etc.) is part of the building costs (cost groups 300/400). What is the price including the foundation slab? And is it really based on living area, not on the floor area?
It should then fit into the "normal" price range.