ᐅ Recirculating Range Hood in New Build KfW40/Energy-Efficient Home – Any Experiences?

Created on: 2 Nov 2024 12:54
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PMW1993
Hello everyone,

We are currently planning the kitchen for our new build.
We would like to install a recirculating cooker hood (Bora, Neff, or similar). We know that vented exhaust is better, but we don’t want to blow the warm air outside and also have to open a window while cooking.
A ventilation system is installed, but we would still ventilate additionally through the windows.

Does anyone have experience with recirculating cooker hoods in new builds?

Thanks and best regards
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chand1986
3 Nov 2024 09:37
ypg schrieb:

I don’t question them, and I don’t question whether I would be happier with a new, different one. [...]
In my view, the sentence is good because my need is met, and that makes me happy. I lack nothing because I don’t know it.
Okay. That is a mindset I don’t have. I see life as a cornucopia of untapped possibilities and a pit of unresolved problems. I would miss the fact that something could not be improved, even if I don’t know the specific application. Settling for a status quo never occurs to me. Otherwise, I wouldn’t even know why anything should be done at all if everything apparently had already been done well. It’s not about consuming material things. It can also be education, art, new recipes, new acquaintances, new projects in the garden, etc.

Or simply put: I actually miss things I don’t know — in the sense of curiosity.

That’s why I find the argument weak. It doesn’t work universally, because it doesn’t fit me, for example. And the longing to remain undisturbed by changes in the world (which I sense a bit from you) is not something I share.
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PMW1993
3 Nov 2024 10:50
Thank you for your honest opinions. I think we will continue planning with the recirculation option, of course from a reputable manufacturer.
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ypg
3 Nov 2024 11:22
Off Topic:
chand1986 schrieb:

I consider life to be a cornucopia of unused possibilities and a pit of unresolved problems.

That can also lead to dissatisfaction. Many other people’s lives do not consist of unresolved problems, but rather a (temporary) contentment.
Because that is life, yes. But I bet there are countless things you have never dealt with before, even though they affect or touch your life every day. But the saying holds true: “you don’t miss what you don’t know.”
Because
Arauki11 schrieb:

Fortunately, I don’t know a lot, and yet I don’t feel deprived.

That applies to you as well! You just don’t realize it. Wink
chand1986 schrieb:

And it’s not about consumption of material goods. It can also be education, art, new recipes, new acquaintances, new projects in the garden, etc.

You just can’t turn every topic into your own personal philosophy.
chand1986 schrieb:

And the longing to remain unaffected by changes in the world (I read a bit of that from you), I do not share.

That’s certainly not the case. From your profile, I gather that you are about 20 years younger than I am and quite a few others here.
And at some point in your life, you too will learn to filter what is enough and what still needs exploring. Because eventually, some things only have to cover basic needs, while others are more important. Like, for example, the extraction system while cooking. Constant striving for more does not bring satisfaction. Constant striving for unused possibilities eventually recedes into the background.
If you have 10 things (culture, kitchen appliances, activities) to explore at a given time, after a while a number of them remain marked as “satisfied” or “checked off.”

A simple example to end my point: after over 30 years, once I’ve found my optimal mattress, I don’t need to keep searching. I rest contentedly and get a refreshing sleep.
PMW1993 schrieb:

I think we will continue planning with the recirculation option, of course from a reputable manufacturer.

That is definitely a good decision.
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Arauki11
3 Nov 2024 12:24
PMW1993 schrieb:

Thanks for your honest opinions. I think we will continue planning with the recirculation option, of course from a reputable manufacturer.

Haha... I think the OP is blushing; I believe he already had a direction in mind.
chand1986 schrieb:

...I’m writing this because the argument "you don’t miss what you don’t know" isn’t a good one. If it were, you wouldn’t know what you need either...

If I was the one being referred to, then I was probably misunderstood or didn’t express myself clearly because that doesn’t reflect my mindset. Of course, I have financial limits too, which is why I identify where our priorities lie to achieve a meaningful benefit for us. Rejecting something outright without knowing it would simply be foolish.
In fact, we sometimes face criticism because, for example, we “invested” in a controlled residential ventilation system, electric cars, more environmentally friendly building materials, nice furniture, etc., but we don’t have a single meter of fencing, rarely eat out, no double garage, almost no automation, and so on. What I mean is that we try to spend our money consistently where it brings us a tangible added value for ourselves, and that could just as well have been an expensive hood.
We all feel the pressure of social trends nowadays, especially with kitchens, which can be hard to resist. At least we try (more or less successfully) not to follow artificially created trends. That’s what I wanted to express, and this perceived added value can vary greatly for each person. However, I often see younger people in particular making arguments that suggest trend-driven decisions, while elsewhere complaining about lack of money.
chand1986 schrieb:

People also don’t miss medicines they don’t know about, but they cope with the consequences of illnesses when they have to. The fact that you know what you really need comes from your experience with things you wanted but turned out to be useless. So, you know because you’re familiar with them, not because you’re unaware of them.

“What the farmer doesn’t know, he doesn’t eat” is definitely not my way of life. Still, I also believe “you don’t have to jump on every bandwagon going down the river.” For me, it’s about making conscious and individual decisions to improve my own quality of life.
I am also sure that some things will seem strange to others, just as some things seem odd to me. But that’s exactly what makes diversity so valuable. I would definitely be convinced by the performance of such a hood, no question, so that I could then objectively decide if it fits for us (costs, installation options, user habits, etc.). If I had no financial limits, I wouldn’t have to think about these things, but that’s part of the fun—trying to best meet my personal possibilities and wishes in specific areas.
chand1986 schrieb:

Or simply: I do actually miss things I don’t know—in the sense of curiosity.

That’s the point!
Then I decide what personally suits me or provides me with an appropriate benefit in any way.
I believe we all share a similar basic attitude here but live different lives.
ypg schrieb:

That’s certainly not the case. From your account, I gather you are about 20 years younger than me and several others here. At some point in your life, you will also learn to filter what is enough and what still needs exploring. Because eventually, some things only need to meet the basic requirements; other things become more important.

That’s an important point and a regular topic of discussion with the younger generation. I can understand both perspectives because 20 years ago, I felt very differently about things that often surprise me now in hindsight. That doesn’t mean the “older” person is wiser; both sides should always be willing to learn from each other.
Today, I am interested in many innovations but ultimately buy or use very few of them; this gives me (very differently than before) a certain calmness in knowing I can observe them and maybe buy them, but they wouldn’t really increase my satisfaction.
Curiosity? Absolutely!