Hello everyone,
we are currently building a single-family house with a basement apartment.
Our initial plan was as follows: You access the basement via a staircase. There is an exterior entrance door at the basement level. When you enter through this door, you come into a kind of hallway. From this hallway, there is one entrance to the 3-room basement apartment and another entrance to the utility room.
However, since one of the basement apartment rooms could not be classified as a quiet/sleeping room due to its orientation, we moved the door of this room to the "outside," meaning to the mentioned hallway, and declared it as a cellar. This left the basement apartment with only 2 rooms, and the hallway now has three entrances: to the apartment, to the cellar, and to the utility room.
We submitted the building permit / planning permission with this setup, and it was approved. In hindsight, we think it would be better to move the door back into the apartment so that the room can be used as a 3rd room for hobbies, work, storage, or similar (not as a quiet/sleeping room). From a financial perspective, a 3-room apartment would be more advantageous than a 2-room apartment.
Would I be able to relocate the door without issues, or would I need to apply for approval again? Getting approval would not be a problem, but I want to avoid losing time since we are already delayed. Also, I’d prefer not to pay unnecessarily. It is basically just one door being moved about 2m (6.5 feet); no other changes are involved.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards
we are currently building a single-family house with a basement apartment.
Our initial plan was as follows: You access the basement via a staircase. There is an exterior entrance door at the basement level. When you enter through this door, you come into a kind of hallway. From this hallway, there is one entrance to the 3-room basement apartment and another entrance to the utility room.
However, since one of the basement apartment rooms could not be classified as a quiet/sleeping room due to its orientation, we moved the door of this room to the "outside," meaning to the mentioned hallway, and declared it as a cellar. This left the basement apartment with only 2 rooms, and the hallway now has three entrances: to the apartment, to the cellar, and to the utility room.
We submitted the building permit / planning permission with this setup, and it was approved. In hindsight, we think it would be better to move the door back into the apartment so that the room can be used as a 3rd room for hobbies, work, storage, or similar (not as a quiet/sleeping room). From a financial perspective, a 3-room apartment would be more advantageous than a 2-room apartment.
Would I be able to relocate the door without issues, or would I need to apply for approval again? Getting approval would not be a problem, but I want to avoid losing time since we are already delayed. Also, I’d prefer not to pay unnecessarily. It is basically just one door being moved about 2m (6.5 feet); no other changes are involved.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards
So come on.
I think the issue with the common room/quiet room is now settled.
. . And now you come with a “basement room”
By the way, this is also not allowed under building regulations.
I think the issue with the common room/quiet room is now settled.
Ruffy99 schrieb:
This room can definitely be used as living space. It can be a common room but not a sleeping or quiet room.
Ruffy99 schrieb:
In fact, a distinction is made here between a quiet/sleeping room and a common room.
. . And now you come with a “basement room”
Ruffy99 schrieb:
On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, I turn a basement room into living space.
By the way, this is also not allowed under building regulations.
ypg schrieb:
Come on.
I think the situation with the common room/quiet room is settled now.
. . And now you come up with a “basement room.”
By the way, that is not recognized in building regulations either. I’m not sure if you read my question properly (it’s even in the title), but that’s exactly what it’s about.
My original plan was to use this room as a children’s bedroom (or have it used as such). As we have established, that is not allowed.
Then I thought it would be better to make it a basement room that I or the tenant could use. (So basically, it would no longer be part of the secondary apartment.)
But now, in hindsight, I regret that and would prefer to have this room within the secondary apartment as, for example, a hobby room or study.
My question now is whether I can simply do that without having to get approval again, since it was previously declared as a basement room, but now I want to move the door and create a “living space” in the form of a work/hobby room. This would change the secondary apartment from two rooms to three rooms.
According to the zoning plan, that is allowed. That’s not the issue. I just want to save myself the whole process and avoid having to go through approval/planning permission again with the building authority, so I can move forward with the construction. Would this “small change” be allowed without a permit?
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motorradsilke15 Jul 2024 10:17I can tell you that in our case, the interior walls and therefore the doors do not match our building permit / planning permission because we made some changes after submitting the application. Our employee at the building authority also said at the time that even windows could be altered. And: Who is supposed to notice, even if you needed an application for it?
motorradsilke schrieb:
I can tell you that in our case, the interior walls and therefore the doors don’t match our building permit / planning permission because we made some changes after submitting the application. And our staff member at the building department also said at the time that even windows could be changed.
And: who would even notice, even if you needed a permit for it? 😉 Thanks for the confirmation. That’s basically my thought as well. It’s just that since I’ve never built before, I don’t really know how the whole process works. Whether anyone actually ever checks if everything matches the approved plans.
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motorradsilke15 Jul 2024 11:00Ruffy99 schrieb:
Thanks for the confirmation. That’s basically my thought as well. Since I’ve never built before, I’m not sure how the whole process works. Whether anyone actually checks if everything matches the plan.Many houses probably no longer match the original plans. Rooms are often combined or partition walls added. As far as I know, no building permit / planning permission is needed for that. However, it must (theoretically) comply with existing regulations.N
nordanney15 Jul 2024 11:28motorradsilke schrieb:
Rooms are often combined or partition walls installed. As far as I know, no building permit / planning permission is required for this.Modifications to load-bearing or supporting walls generally require approval (except for openings) whenever the structural integrity is affected. Therefore, closing an existing door or creating a new door should typically proceed without special permission.Similar topics