ᐅ Building with a knee wall height of 50 cm (approximately 20 inches)?
Created on: 21 Apr 2024 13:47
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MelW2024
Hello.
We are currently negotiating for our "dream plot." Great location, but unfortunately quite expensive.
Now we have taken a close look at the zoning plan and found out that a knee wall of 50cm (20 inches) is required.
I find that quite frustrating and am almost of the opinion that we should continue looking elsewhere. (which is unfortunately not so easy in this area)
My husband dismisses it as "it's not that bad" and "if necessary, we’ll build a bungalow with a basement."
The zoning plan dates back to 1970. We have submitted an inquiry to the city regarding changes, but they are not very forthcoming with information.
Now my questions:
Does anyone have experience with changes to zoning plans (building permits/planning permission)?
Has anyone built with such a low knee wall and can share their experience?
Thanks and best regards, Mel
We are currently negotiating for our "dream plot." Great location, but unfortunately quite expensive.
Now we have taken a close look at the zoning plan and found out that a knee wall of 50cm (20 inches) is required.
I find that quite frustrating and am almost of the opinion that we should continue looking elsewhere. (which is unfortunately not so easy in this area)
My husband dismisses it as "it's not that bad" and "if necessary, we’ll build a bungalow with a basement."
The zoning plan dates back to 1970. We have submitted an inquiry to the city regarding changes, but they are not very forthcoming with information.
Now my questions:
Does anyone have experience with changes to zoning plans (building permits/planning permission)?
Has anyone built with such a low knee wall and can share their experience?
Thanks and best regards, Mel
I am somewhat hesitant about the idea of a "residential basement." I am also worried that we might not actually be able to afford a basement, since our entire equity will be spent on the land. I haven’t quite figured out yet whether building with a basement is mandatory with a 10% requirement, or if it is possible to level the land (or just the part where the house will be built).
MelW2024 schrieb:
whether you “have to” build a basement at a 10% slope You can’t generalize, because a slope usually isn’t uniform. It’s not just about the building plot, but also the rest of the development plan, surroundings, orientation, etc. You don’t typically take a house design and place it on a lot—you have the plot and try to design the house in harmony with your taste, desires, and budget.
The basement or lower floor can be influenced—whether it counts as a full story or not. As long as less than 1.40 meters (4 ft 7 in) of the exterior walls protrude above ground level, it doesn’t count as a full story.
MelW2024 schrieb:
I’m a bit reluctant about the idea of a “habitable basement.” Why?
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hanghaus202323 Apr 2024 09:37If you provide more information about the plot, it will be easier to offer helpful advice. @ypg has already pointed out the key factors.
How expensive is the building plot?
In my opinion, a 50 cm (20 inches) knee wall is not a deal breaker. There may be entirely different conditions in the zoning plan / building permit that affect the decision. Unfortunately, we do not know the details of the zoning plan.
The surrounding area managed just fine with a 50 cm (20 inches) knee wall, so there must be another reason why the plot is still undeveloped.
How expensive is the building plot?
In my opinion, a 50 cm (20 inches) knee wall is not a deal breaker. There may be entirely different conditions in the zoning plan / building permit that affect the decision. Unfortunately, we do not know the details of the zoning plan.
The surrounding area managed just fine with a 50 cm (20 inches) knee wall, so there must be another reason why the plot is still undeveloped.
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hanghaus202323 Apr 2024 09:49In Baden-Württemberg, the following applies: "Storeys are considered above-ground if the average top edge of their ceilings extends more than 1.4 m (4.6 feet) above the ground surface; otherwise, they are basement storeys."
With a 10% slope, the basement should generally be designed as a livable basement due to cost considerations.
Does the development plan specify reference heights?
This is what a livable basement can look like:
With a 10% slope, the basement should generally be designed as a livable basement due to cost considerations.
Does the development plan specify reference heights?
This is what a livable basement can look like:
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motorradsilke23 Apr 2024 10:04hanghaus2023 schrieb:
In Baden-Württemberg, the following applies: "Floors are considered above-ground if their ceiling edges are on average more than 1.4 m (4.6 feet) above the ground surface; otherwise, they are basements."
With a 10% slope, the basement should be designed as a livable basement anyway, also considering cost efficiency.
Does the development plan specify reference heights?
This is how a livable basement can look:
I would prefer if the lower side faces south/west. The storage room can also serve as a utility room.
If not, I would place the kids’ rooms and bedrooms downstairs.
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hanghaus202323 Apr 2024 10:28I roughly sketched it with a 10% slope of the original terrain (blue). The terrain modeling is shown in green.
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