ᐅ Make an oval-shaped bathtub slightly movable due to dirt buildup behind it?

Hello everyone,

hanghaus2023 schrieb:

I also looked into the T layout. But a 60 cm (24 inches) passageway is far too narrow for me.

hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Here is the view.

The nice spacious bathroom suddenly feels cramped.

hanghaus2023 schrieb:

I adjusted it again to the shower, which I consider too narrow at 85 cm (33 inches). Then the passageway is also 85 cm (33 inches).

Thanks for your many new sketches. A 60 cm (24 inches) passageway also seems too small to me.
I used my break from the forum to visit bathroom showrooms. That allowed me to focus on the necessary minimum dimensions for each wall:
Shower wall (to be able to move your arms freely above your head) = 90 cm (35 inches)
Passage in the shower = 53 cm (21 inches)

That way, you gain a few centimeters. Also, I spotted a bathtub that has a curved edge at the narrow spot near the sink:

This would certainly help make the area feel less cramped.

Schorsch_baut schrieb:

How about something like this? That would leave plenty of space in the middle, room for a towel warmer on the shower wall. Or make it out of glass.

In principle, that would be possible if you swap the layout a bit. Switching the bathtub and the toilet is one option.
We currently have a towel warmer, but it’s never used and just collects dust.

Schorsch_baut schrieb:

We're currently removing a corner bathtub.
I wouldn’t install a 1.70 m (67 inches) double door into a bathroom—not unless it’s as big as a ballroom. In the end, you usually add frosted glass and curtains anyway, just losing valuable wall space.

If it’s private and brings light into the bathroom, it makes sense to us. Also, you can enter dirty from outside directly into the bathroom without passing through other rooms, or in the future there might be a sauna, hot tub, etc. outside.

partyoleole schrieb:

I wouldn’t want to miss my double floor-to-ceiling window in the bathroom, at least for quick air exchange.
Is there also an option for the original poster/renovator to solve it as shown in the attachment?
1. Shower head
2. Sink (single) — a compromise!
3. The wall moves 40 cm (16 inches) closer to the door.
The toilet stays where it is, and you could even skip the wall to the left of it.

What would be made of glass?

If I understand correctly, this compromise would be okay for us. I definitely haven’t missed having a double sink so far. We are also rather small people.
Isn’t everything I observed in the showroom even more feasible with the new measurements mentioned? Let’s assume the shower passage is reduced to 60 cm (24 inches).

partyoleole schrieb:

Just a suggestion.

In my apartment, the toilet sticks out 55 cm (22 inches) from the wall and the single sink is 60 cm (24 inches).
If the shower wall moves toward the door, there should still be enough space for feet.

That’s about how it is in some friends’ homes as well.

kbt09 schrieb:

@partyoleole .. honestly ... a bathroom of about 11 sqm (118 sq ft) shouldn’t have to settle for compromises like these, which I find borderline acceptable even for a small guest WC.

What exactly would the mentioned compromise be?

partyoleole schrieb:

Which compromise do you mean? The single sink?

I have a similar setup myself—I can barely reach the faucet, but having it close helps my daily routine. For example, I can sit on the toilet while brushing my teeth and still easily spit into the sink.
I just measured 1.80 meters (6 feet) for this; the toilet is angled at 45 degrees.

Probably other things could be well used in a dual way too! For example, you wouldn’t always have to drag an office chair into the bathroom to paint your fingernails...

This is the layout variant from @partyoleole:

I must add that we really like it when, in this or the T layout, the west wall side is less frequently used, since our bed is planned immediately behind it, with our heads resting against that wall. We are very sensitive to noise—the wardrobe and bathtub would probably be used less or more quietly compared to the shower, toilet, and sink...

Do you know what I’ve been curious about since #49? How does the bathroom look now, and why do you want to remodel it? Are you looking to improve something, or do you simply no longer like the outdated design?
Would you be willing to share a photo?
To be honest, I don’t think much of your sketch.
It crams a wall full of sanitary fixtures, which doesn’t really create a comfortable space, and functionally it’s even worse. The toilet barely has any room and is placed at an angle so that the washbasin is more or less right in your face. Two people using the bathroom at the same time are quite “in each other’s way.”
A 60cm (24 inches) entry to the shower might work, but then you really can’t gain weight over the coming years. Of course, the overall length is important as well.
I always find it quite risky to plan fixtures in a space without water supply, wall claddings, and shelving. Is that a wardrobe in the bottom left?

I find it not only terribly cramped from an aesthetic point of view but also impractical. The sink is located as far away from the door as possible.

ypg schrieb:

Do you know what I would be interested in after post #49? How the bathroom looks now and why you want to renovate. Are you aiming to improve something? Or do you no longer like the outdated design?
Would you mind sharing a photo?

This is a house renovation, and basically everything has been gutted. The room used to be a child’s bedroom; the old bathroom no longer exists. I was at the house last night, and the pictures will follow. Floor-to-ceiling windows have not been installed yet; objects were placed roughly as if they were the bathroom fixtures. I think that’s self-explanatory.

Option 1 (Shower width 90cm (35 inches), passage in the middle 70cm (27.5 inches)):

Option 2 (Shower width 100cm (39 inches), passage in shower 75cm (30 inches)):

ypg schrieb:

To be honest, I don’t like your sketch at all.
You’re cramming a wall full of sanitary fixtures, which has little to do with comfort and even less with functionality. The toilet basically has no real space and is positioned diagonally so you more or less face the washbasin. Two people using the bathroom at the same time will definitely have "issues" with each other.
A 60cm (24 inch) wide shower entrance can work, but then you better not put on any weight over the next years. Of course, the overall length is important as well.
I always find it very risky to plan fixtures in a room without water supply, wall partitions, or shelving. Is that a wardrobe in the lower left corner?

Both have pros and cons in my opinion, as you can also see from the pictures and sketches.
What exactly do you mean by "Two people using the bathroom at the same time will definitely have ‘issues’ with each other"? Which situations are you referring to?
That is supposed to be a bathroom cabinet.

Schorsch_baut schrieb:

I not only think it looks terribly cramped but it’s also impractical. The sink is as far as possible from the door.

Okay, well whether I have to walk 2 meters (6.5 feet) further to the sink or not doesn’t really bother me. On the plus side, I can quickly wash my hands right when I come in and maybe avoid taking off dirty shoes indoors.

I’m not an advocate of the “crammed” version, but I’m also not against it.

Besenkammer84 schrieb:

Two people using the bathroom side by side are “in each other’s way.” — What situations do you mean?

Exactly these:

partyoleole schrieb:

For example, I can be tired/sleepy while brushing my teeth, sit on the toilet at the same time, and still manage to get toothpaste into the sink.

ypg schrieb:

The toilet itself hardly has any space and is set at an angle so that the washbasin is more or less right in front of your face. Two people using the bathroom side by side are really “in each other’s way.”

If one person is getting ready at the washbasin, the other has to squeeze past them to get to the toilet.
The opposite is similar—knees and heads get in the way (unless you’re left-handed).

ypg schrieb:

Two people using the bathroom side by side are “in each other’s way.”

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I don’t know if you’re the only one who takes partyoleole’s suggestion (the name says it all somehow) seriously.
This idea is automatically ruled out by common sense.
However, if you want to turn 11sqm (120 sq ft) into a combined living and sleeping space, then go ahead.

I have to say (I remember the original reckless idea behind why you opened this thread) that some people really surprise me. A house, a bathroom, a renovation, or whatever else is simply too expensive to toy around with silly ideas. You can do something like that in a garden shed where the guys meet at night, but not in a space where function should be implemented tastefully and aesthetically because it’s meant to bring daily enjoyment.

Besenkammer84 schrieb:

This is a house renovation and basically everything has been gutted. The room used to be a children's room; the former bathroom no longer exists. I was at the house last night, the pictures will follow below. Floor-to-ceiling windows have not been installed yet; items were placed as if they were bathroom fixtures. I think that is self-explanatory.

Option 1 (shower width 90 cm (35 inches), passage in the middle 70 cm (28 inches)):

Option 2 (shower width 100 cm (39 inches), passage in shower 75 cm (30 inches)):

Both have, in my opinion, advantages and disadvantages, as can also be seen from the pictures and sketches.
What exactly do you mean by "Two people in the bathroom at the same time having something to do with each other"? – Which situations do you mean?
That is supposed to be a bathroom cabinet.

Okay, well whether I walk 2 meters (6.5 feet) further to the sink or not doesn’t matter much to me. On the other hand, I can quickly wash my hands from outside and maybe avoid taking off dirty shoes.

I’m not an advocate of the “cramped” version, but I’m not against it either.

You seem to have a small misunderstanding. You cannot open a double casement window from the outside. So no quick hand washing from outside.
I think the sink should be close to the bathroom door because that’s where you use it most, from the inside.
A sink that is quickly accessible from outside is great; we have that in the utility room and in the guest toilet.