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lubawinskis31 Mar 2024 10:21Hello dear community,
Since the beginning of this year, we have been planning our prefabricated house with Weberhaus and are now close to signing the contract.
As we have been following this forum from the start to get answers to our questions and gather ideas, we would now like to take the opportunity to upload our floor plan for community feedback.
Overall, we are quite happy with the design – we are just still refining the bathroom. For personal and health reasons, having a second access through the bedroom is mandatory, even though it uses a few square meters.
The two openings to the kitchen and living room will have sliding doors.
Enjoy reviewing and providing input.
Good luck
Stefan
Since the beginning of this year, we have been planning our prefabricated house with Weberhaus and are now close to signing the contract.
As we have been following this forum from the start to get answers to our questions and gather ideas, we would now like to take the opportunity to upload our floor plan for community feedback.
Overall, we are quite happy with the design – we are just still refining the bathroom. For personal and health reasons, having a second access through the bedroom is mandatory, even though it uses a few square meters.
The two openings to the kitchen and living room will have sliding doors.
Enjoy reviewing and providing input.
Good luck
Stefan
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lubawinskis31 Mar 2024 10:31Here are a few facts
Plot / Restrictions:
762m² (8,210 ft²) plot in a residential area, existing development, no slope,
20 x 38m (66 x 125 ft), garden facing NNE
No building restrictions (no floor area ratio, etc.)
1 parking space
Gable roof with 25 degrees
Client Requirements
Small footprint with spatial separation for living (ground floor), sleeping (upper floor), and working (basement)
Two people plus possibly a child and a dog
Home office in the basement, studio possibly used as a private practice
No fireplace
Carport to be added later (no garage)
Open kitchen
Rather modern construction style but not too avant-garde
Large bathroom with direct access from the bedroom
Large shower and wider corridors
Wardrobe in the hallway
Bed oriented towards the east
Washing machine in the bathroom
Current House Design
Provided by Weberhaus based on our input
Particularly liked: the ability to open everything on the ground floor and theoretically have a view from the stairs to the garden
Still unsure about: the bathroom layout and noise disturbance in the bedroom from the sink
Cost estimate: 570,000€ including basement (heated)
Plot / Restrictions:
762m² (8,210 ft²) plot in a residential area, existing development, no slope,
20 x 38m (66 x 125 ft), garden facing NNE
No building restrictions (no floor area ratio, etc.)
1 parking space
Gable roof with 25 degrees
Client Requirements
Small footprint with spatial separation for living (ground floor), sleeping (upper floor), and working (basement)
Two people plus possibly a child and a dog
Home office in the basement, studio possibly used as a private practice
No fireplace
Carport to be added later (no garage)
Open kitchen
Rather modern construction style but not too avant-garde
Large bathroom with direct access from the bedroom
Large shower and wider corridors
Wardrobe in the hallway
Bed oriented towards the east
Washing machine in the bathroom
Current House Design
Provided by Weberhaus based on our input
Particularly liked: the ability to open everything on the ground floor and theoretically have a view from the stairs to the garden
Still unsure about: the bathroom layout and noise disturbance in the bedroom from the sink
Cost estimate: 570,000€ including basement (heated)
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masterflok31 Mar 2024 17:03The bathroom is terrible, especially that dead corner with the washing machine. It would be better to place the shower in the corner instead.
When sitting on the right edge of the bed in the bedroom, you can look straight at the toilet bowl – a real nightmare.
The bedroom, including the dressing area, is 25 square meters (270 square feet) in size. Are you getting advice from an architect or just a sales representative?
Why does it have to be a prefabricated house? Your floor plan clearly shows how they are force-fitting your wishes into the standard layout. Especially since the 570,000 Euro price is far from cheap.
When sitting on the right edge of the bed in the bedroom, you can look straight at the toilet bowl – a real nightmare.
The bedroom, including the dressing area, is 25 square meters (270 square feet) in size. Are you getting advice from an architect or just a sales representative?
Why does it have to be a prefabricated house? Your floor plan clearly shows how they are force-fitting your wishes into the standard layout. Especially since the 570,000 Euro price is far from cheap.
There is no point in discussing this since there is neither a site plan nor information on how the house is positioned on the plot.
A private practice of what? Is commercial use permitted according to the zoning plan / building permit? Emergency exits from the practice? Access to the practice through the private living area?
lubawinskis schrieb:
Home office in the basement, studio possibly used as a private practice
A private practice of what? Is commercial use permitted according to the zoning plan / building permit? Emergency exits from the practice? Access to the practice through the private living area?
I have to agree with @masterflok on his first point.
I would be more concerned about the sliding door, which is anything but soundproof. Additionally, there is a living area (dining space) under the bathroom that obviously does not benefit from the bathroom’s drainage. With two windowed walls, there is hardly any possibility to discharge wastewater properly. The feeling of spaciousness intended for the bathroom is lost due to the bulky masonry shower positioned right in the middle.
What happens if a child arrives later — they would have to sleep next to the washing machine and the shower…
If this were a 109 sqm (1170 sq ft) terraced house, you could live with it… but if you are paying for a Weberhaus, I would invest more effort into the planning.
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I am a bit stuck on this statement:
Whether it’s incontinence, mobility impairment, or any other limitation: the whole house is not designed to accommodate restrictions. When entering the bathroom, you face the toilet immediately; several narrow passages and corners have been artificially built in; the hallway feels cramped. On the ground floor, the kitchen corner is inconvenient—so one has to question why leaky, heavy sliding doors are planned everywhere.
Wouldn’t it be nice if that was actually practical? What is preferred: privacy or openness? Options are good, but usually not both optimized.
Where would the second sliding door in the living room be?
I think sliding doors are somewhat overvalued. They look stylish, yes, but they can be overdone. Practically, I don’t find them very useful (I have one myself) and they are rather an eye-catcher that you shouldn’t expect too much from. Often, they simply don’t function as a proper door should.
Based on this information (the rest is unfortunately quite limited), all I can imagine is anything but a compact three-story house.
I find this hardly practical. I’m not a fan of excessive building footprint either, but with proper zoning an optimized two-story house would fit better.
Unfortunately, the site plan is missing as well as information about where the carport will be located. From which side will the plot be accessed, and is it true that patients (practice) should use the outdoor stairs to get to the basement?
There’s not much constructive criticism possible, but I would suggest moving bathrooms and kitchen closer to the terrace and possibly adjusting the orientation of rooms accordingly. Then, considering the dog, think about the stairs and the dog’s sleeping area—perhaps a shower on the ground floor or where you enter with the dog. The basement stairs and entrance area seem too fragmented, and the basement bathroom is too far away.
Keep in mind that every toilet room should have roof ventilation.
And yes, if there will be a child, their bedroom should be proportionally valued compared to the other rooms.
Regarding the main question about the bathroom, quite a lot has already been said. A shower in an L-shape, with the toilet behind it, a washbasin with a side window, and the washing machine should not be a disturbance in a relaxing bathroom.
lubawinskis schrieb:
The bathroom and the noise level in the bedroom from the sink
I would be more concerned about the sliding door, which is anything but soundproof. Additionally, there is a living area (dining space) under the bathroom that obviously does not benefit from the bathroom’s drainage. With two windowed walls, there is hardly any possibility to discharge wastewater properly. The feeling of spaciousness intended for the bathroom is lost due to the bulky masonry shower positioned right in the middle.
What happens if a child arrives later — they would have to sleep next to the washing machine and the shower…
If this were a 109 sqm (1170 sq ft) terraced house, you could live with it… but if you are paying for a Weberhaus, I would invest more effort into the planning.
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I am a bit stuck on this statement:
lubawinskis schrieb:
For personal/health reasons, the second access through the bedroom is mandatory, even if it costs a few square meters.
Whether it’s incontinence, mobility impairment, or any other limitation: the whole house is not designed to accommodate restrictions. When entering the bathroom, you face the toilet immediately; several narrow passages and corners have been artificially built in; the hallway feels cramped. On the ground floor, the kitchen corner is inconvenient—so one has to question why leaky, heavy sliding doors are planned everywhere.
lubawinskis schrieb:
You can open everything on the ground floor and theoretically look from the stairs into the garden
Wouldn’t it be nice if that was actually practical? What is preferred: privacy or openness? Options are good, but usually not both optimized.
Where would the second sliding door in the living room be?
I think sliding doors are somewhat overvalued. They look stylish, yes, but they can be overdone. Practically, I don’t find them very useful (I have one myself) and they are rather an eye-catcher that you shouldn’t expect too much from. Often, they simply don’t function as a proper door should.
lubawinskis schrieb:
762 sqm (8200 sq ft) plot in a residential area, existing buildings, no slope,
20 x 38 m (66 x 125 ft), garden facing NNE
No building restrictions (no floor area ratio, etc.)
Based on this information (the rest is unfortunately quite limited), all I can imagine is anything but a compact three-story house.
lubawinskis schrieb:
Small footprint, but spatial separation into living (ground floor), sleeping (upper floor), and working (basement)
Two people + possibly a child + dog
I find this hardly practical. I’m not a fan of excessive building footprint either, but with proper zoning an optimized two-story house would fit better.
Unfortunately, the site plan is missing as well as information about where the carport will be located. From which side will the plot be accessed, and is it true that patients (practice) should use the outdoor stairs to get to the basement?
There’s not much constructive criticism possible, but I would suggest moving bathrooms and kitchen closer to the terrace and possibly adjusting the orientation of rooms accordingly. Then, considering the dog, think about the stairs and the dog’s sleeping area—perhaps a shower on the ground floor or where you enter with the dog. The basement stairs and entrance area seem too fragmented, and the basement bathroom is too far away.
Keep in mind that every toilet room should have roof ventilation.
And yes, if there will be a child, their bedroom should be proportionally valued compared to the other rooms.
Regarding the main question about the bathroom, quite a lot has already been said. A shower in an L-shape, with the toilet behind it, a washbasin with a side window, and the washing machine should not be a disturbance in a relaxing bathroom.
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