Hello everyone,
I hope to gather some experience here.
We are currently planning our own construction project in Rhineland-Palatinate. We would like to use the KfW 300 program with QNG certification to receive the €220,000 grant. The plot of land is already secured. We had a consultation with Hanse Haus, and I have to say I was shocked by the price: €580,000 for 160 m² (1,722 sq ft) turnkey. The consultant said they can only offer a custom design because it involves boundary line construction. According to him, we ourselves cannot do anything to meet the QNG certification except some minor painting work. He calculated roughly €3,000 per m² (approx. $280 per sq ft).
Additional construction-related costs are estimated at €30,000, the garage at €10,000 (does this need to be included in the cost breakdown?), and the garden also at €10,000 (which the consultant said must likewise be included in the cost estimate).
Does anyone have experience with similar projects or can recommend another provider? We are currently still waiting for a quote from Massa Haus. The price is definitely too high for us, and with that, the subsidy doesn’t really make sense.
I would really appreciate any responses and help.
Best regards,
Leon
I hope to gather some experience here.
We are currently planning our own construction project in Rhineland-Palatinate. We would like to use the KfW 300 program with QNG certification to receive the €220,000 grant. The plot of land is already secured. We had a consultation with Hanse Haus, and I have to say I was shocked by the price: €580,000 for 160 m² (1,722 sq ft) turnkey. The consultant said they can only offer a custom design because it involves boundary line construction. According to him, we ourselves cannot do anything to meet the QNG certification except some minor painting work. He calculated roughly €3,000 per m² (approx. $280 per sq ft).
Additional construction-related costs are estimated at €30,000, the garage at €10,000 (does this need to be included in the cost breakdown?), and the garden also at €10,000 (which the consultant said must likewise be included in the cost estimate).
Does anyone have experience with similar projects or can recommend another provider? We are currently still waiting for a quote from Massa Haus. The price is definitely too high for us, and with that, the subsidy doesn’t really make sense.
I would really appreciate any responses and help.
Best regards,
Leon
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Costruttrice29 Mar 2024 09:10Rübe1 schrieb:
Hmm, you could also call that a defensive offer.Why would that be a defensive offer? A prefab house manufacturer like Hanse Haus makes their money by selling and building pre-designed homes. As soon as you deviate from the standard and want to build something custom, it automatically becomes more expensive with such a provider. It has nothing to do with being defensive; it just doesn’t fit their business model. With specific plot requirements, a company that specializes in selling off-the-shelf houses might simply not be the right choice.And you don’t get QNG (Quality Construction Guarantee) for free either; you have to carefully consider what additional costs it involves and what benefits the subsidy actually brings in the end.
Apart from that, €3,000 per sqm (approximately $320 per sq ft) is not unusual—in fact, it’s quite common.
Rübe1 schrieb:
Just because you can’t imagine it doesn’t mean your opinion is correct. If you knew what I do, you wouldn’t react that way. Believe me, I know what I’m talking about.
And if I tell you, you can get QNG for 2500, you can trust me on that. You need to learn to read more carefully. I didn’t say it wasn’t possible to build for 2500, but that this is not a counteroffer.
Leon282 schrieb:
Hello Katja, thanks for your post.
So far, there have been hardly any special requests.
Would you say the price is fair and justified? The price is typical but absolutely impossible to assess based on your very limited information. Borderline development, barn – how are we supposed to know what other details might be involved? Are there any necessary shoring measures? A slope? Demolition costs? Other types of contamination? Site development? The list goes on.
Costruttrice schrieb:
Why should this be considered a defensive offer? A prefab home manufacturer like Hanse Haus makes their money by selling and building pre-designed houses. As soon as you deviate from the standard and want to build something custom, it automatically becomes more expensive with such a provider. This has nothing to do with defense; it simply deviates from their concept. With specific plot requirements, you may simply be looking in the wrong place when dealing with a provider who specializes in selling off-the-shelf houses.
And QNG is not free either; you have to carefully consider what additional costs it involves and what you ultimately gain from the subsidy.
Setting that aside, €3,000 per square meter (approximately $320 per square foot) is not unusual, on the contrary.Thanks for your post. Which provider would be the right choice then? Would you have a suggestion? Thanks
K a t j a schrieb:
The price is reasonable but absolutely impossible to assess based on your very limited information. Boundary development, barn—how are we supposed to know what other details might be involved? Is drainage or foundation reinforcement needed? Slope? Demolition costs? Contamination issues? Site connection? The list goes on. Dear Katja, sorry that you can’t make use of these limited details, but if you have nothing constructive to add and find the information insufficient, please simply refrain from commenting. I also don’t understand why you are spreading negativity here.
Leon282 schrieb:
Dear Katja, sorry that you can't make use of these limited details, but if you have nothing constructive to add and find the information insufficient, please just don't comment.
I also don't understand why you are spreading negativity here. You say the price is normal, but on the other hand, you say it cannot be assessed. You are contradicting yourself.