ᐅ Make an oval-shaped bathtub slightly movable due to dirt buildup behind it?

Created on: 16 Oct 2023 11:49
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Besenkammer84
Hello everyone,

we are currently planning our home renovation and thinking about the bathroom. We have already consulted a specialist on this.

We find a freestanding oval bathtub very stylish, but the advisor recommended against a design-focused tub due to the intended corner position. The reason is that dirt would accumulate behind it, making it difficult to keep that area clean and dry.

I’ve been thinking about this and appreciate that he was honest about these issues.

Furthermore, we use the bathtub only about 15 times a year; the rest of the time it would either collect laundry or just be wasted space. Also, the main problem seems to be the fixed bathtub itself and the resulting difficulty in cleaning behind it.

Therefore, I came up with the idea that the bathtub could be made movable somehow (with small/flat casters or something similar). The only real issue here would be the drainage of the used water.

So here is the idea I have in mind:

  • We equip the bathtub with small/flat casters or similar so it can be moved forward for cleaning.
  • Option A – Attach a hose to the drain so that after use, the hose can be placed in the shower to allow the water to drain there.
  • Option B – Use a flexible drainage system so the bathtub can be moved for cleaning with the drain attached.
  • Optionally, consider whether a bathtub faucet is needed at all, or if just a showerhead mounted on the wall would suffice (currently, we also fill the tub exclusively using the shower hose).

Below is a rough plan showing our current bathroom layout. The measurements are accurate, but the walls are not to scale. Speaking of measurements, we are quite short at 155cm (5 feet 1 inch) and 168cm (5 feet 6 inches) and can manage fine with a somewhat smaller bathtub. Guests or children are not a priority for now ;-)

Floor plan of a bathroom with bathtub, shower, doors, and measurements


This is a potential bathtub choice (weight approx. 40 kg (88 lbs)):

Overhead view of a white freestanding bathtub with chrome fixtures.


What do you think about our plan? The dimensions for both bathtub and shower are 165cm (65 inches) each, which should just fit.. We still need to try lying in the bathtub to be sure :-/

Thanks in advance to everyone who advises us & best regards
11ant17 Oct 2023 14:23
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

My bathroom design software starts with freestanding bathtubs at 1.8 m (5 ft 11 in).
It can position the bathrooms on Upper Bavarian meadows.
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ypg
18 Oct 2023 00:42
Besenkammer84 schrieb:

We use the bathtub about 15 times a year; the rest of the time, our laundry ends up piling up in it.
Besenkammer84 schrieb:

So, if there’s laundry in the tub, remove it and put it in the laundry basket, etc.
3. Level the empty bathtub.
4. Position the hose so it drains into the shower drain or another drain.
5. Run water through the showerhead.
6. Person gets out of the tub, pull the plug → water drains.
7. Rinse the tub; water also drains out.
8. Clean behind the tub if possible.
9. Return the empty tub to its original position.
Besenkammer84 schrieb:

The other one is simply more ours.

Honestly: setting aside that I think this is technically a really bad idea—how can you talk about aesthetics and wellness when you treat a bathtub as a laundry pile (regardless of whether visitors see the tub) or plan to carry out steps 3–9 every time you use it? Sorry, but you’re really tangled up in this bad idea without any understanding of why and how someone would want to enjoy a bath in a tub.

There isn’t only the tiled-in bathtub option. There are also alternatives that are open at the front in almost any shape. Using a tub as a laundry collector might make sense in a two-room rental with two kids due to limited space, but not in a private bathroom that’s supposed to stand out with “style and design.” Looks great on the outside, but a mess inside.

Design also means knowing when to leave things out or reduce your wishes, so you can actually call it design. The “I absolutely have to have this” mindset rarely has anything to do with design. It’s like stuffing a pantry into a corner of the kitchen and thereby ruining both the kitchen’s design and functionality.

I wouldn’t even compare a 165 × 73 cm (65 × 29 inches) economy-sized tub with one that has very different slopes and interior shape. That just doesn’t work.

Come on, plan a nicely functioning bathroom with an attractive bathtub—not such a foolish stunt.
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HeimatBauer
18 Oct 2023 08:24
ypg schrieb:

Come on, plan a well-functioning bathroom with a stylish bathtub, but avoid such a senseless idea.

That is also my recommendation. Alternatively: build the bathroom exactly as described above, hold public and ticketed bathtub move parties when you move in, demonstrating the bathtub swap—and use the proceeds from the entrance fees to finance the subsequent bathroom renovation.
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Besenkammer84
27 Mar 2024 23:08
Hello everyone,

I could have sworn that I replied to many of your posts, criticisms, and suggestions back then. First of all, you convinced me, and I have since moved away from the idea of a mobile oval bathtub. The last period was quite turbulent, and things didn’t progress—perhaps that’s for the best.
Anyway, thank you very much; I will now respond to your posts one by one.
kati1337 schrieb:

That really shouldn’t be underestimated. For model and size of the bathtub, I would try out various tubs at a bathroom showroom. No, that’s not silly at all. ^^ Neither my sister nor my mother did that back then (what do PEOPLE say???), and both hate their bathtubs.
We are both not very short and chose a 180x80 cm (71x31.5 inches) tub, and I love it above all. It is rather "shallow" and has a wide backrest. We had eyed one from Villeroy & Boch that was several hundred euros more expensive. It would have allowed two people to bathe together, but none of us found it comfortable.
Of the freestanding ones (which would have been too expensive for us anyway), I didn’t find a single one comfortable. They all had walls so high, which felt too deep and narrow for me.


Good point, we’ll definitely do that! What matters most to us is that our chest is underwater and our arms/armpits are not cramped.
mayglow schrieb:

For the shower, I might consider whether the fixed part that faces the door (if I understand correctly) could also be foldable or something like that. We currently have it that way in our rental apartment (two sides of the shower can be folded away). Otherwise, draw it to scale and see how much space there is for the shower entrance, but squeezing through 40 cm (16 inches) each time doesn’t sound very comfortable.


I don’t quite understand—do you have an example of what you mean?
HeimatBauer schrieb:

Let’s collect the facts:
- You really want to have it
- It’s legal to try
- Still, no working implementations are known
- Any “if only” speculation is pointless

=> Just do it and report back here!


Gladly, I will report back, but I don’t think it will be implemented like that after all :-D (see new suggestion at the end of the post)
hanghaus2023 schrieb:


My tub is 1.65 m (65 inches), and either my knees or shoulders always stick out of the water. I’m 1.80 m (71 inches).

My bathroom design software starts freestanding tubs at 1.8 m (71 inches).

For example, I would put a 90 cm (35 inch) door on the left window and make the rest fixed glass on the right side.

If the plumbing is still open for planning — which I wouldn’t expect in an existing building — then the entire bathroom should probably be redesigned. You’ll definitely find help here for that.


Yes, we are now focusing more on a comfortable lying position in the bathtub and also on the important large window opening to the outside (new suggestion at the end of the post).
The plumbing is still free to be planned.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Here is my first suggestion. A version with a rotated shower will follow.







Wow, many thanks (y), this immediately gives a different impression.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Here is the second version with a level-access (walk-in) shower.



The tub only goes up to 1.8 m (71 inches) in the program.

The right window is fixed glass.

The rotating mechanism is removed. Easy to clean.

Unobstructed view out of the window.


Wow, thank you so much again (y).

Yes, we will probably have to give up the view out of the window (new suggestion at the end of the post).
Schorsch_baut schrieb:

I would definitely try such a tub. My wife is 162 cm (64 inches) and can hardly get in and out of most freestanding tubs because of the high walls. We ended up choosing a standard tub.


Good point, as I mentioned above, we’ll do that! It’s especially important to us that our chest is submerged and our arms/armpits are not cramped.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

It also works with a corner bathtub, but it’s not as elegant.



The third wow, thank you very much (y), but it really looks less appealing, at least in the diagram.
11ant schrieb:


Well, a plumber probably wouldn’t even get to see such a setup as described.

Try the antics— but don’t forget to report your success!
A monkey and a horse are part of every good whimsical villa, after all.


We have moved away from that idea. See new suggestion at the end of the post.
11ant schrieb:

But it can place the bathrooms on Upper Bavarian meadows ;-)


I don’t understand that.
ypg schrieb:

Come on, plan a nicely functioning bathroom with a sleek tub, but not such a foolish stunt.


We will do that— see new suggestion below.

New suggestion:
We applied our “paint” skills approximately to scale ;-)

Floor plan of a bathroom: bathtub on the left, sink green, shower blue, toilet yellow on the right.


Most likely, the only issue will be the visual pinch point between the sink and bathtub. However, we might be able to gain 3 cm (1.2 inches) per wall by removing drywall and Styrofoam. Furthermore, the concrete section between the sink and the shower might be slimmed down, and the sink plumbing connections underneath could be surface-mounted, etc.

What do you think?
What else would you recommend?

Best regards and thanks
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hanghaus2023
28 Mar 2024 12:40
I also looked into the T-junction. But a 60cm (24 inches) passage is far too narrow for me.
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hanghaus2023
28 Mar 2024 12:50
Here is the view.
Bright bathroom with bathtub on the left, double sink on the right, window front overlooking the garden.


The spacious and nice bathroom suddenly feels cramped.

Floor plan of a bathroom: bathtub on the left, double sink in the center, shower on the right, door at the bottom.