ᐅ Cost Estimate for Electrical Planning

Created on: 18 Oct 2023 12:57
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Gigiundzisis
Hello dear community,

We have spent a long time researching and gathering information here, and would now like to share our electrical offer, which seems a bit high to us after reviewing other quotes in this forum. In particular, the electrician is unwilling to offer any discounts or allowances. On the contrary, we were arrogantly told that these are the best prices calculated for us and that we won’t find cheaper offers elsewhere...

To cut a long story short, €90 (about $98) net per electrical outlet is steep.

The construction method is clay block, where the outlet locations are already planned during the wall construction. No chasing or cutting channels will take place, so careful planning is essential.

The builder himself has only had good experiences with this electrician. As a precaution, we requested another quote and are currently waiting.

Construction will take place in the beautiful town of Oranienburg near Berlin.



Preisangebot-Tabelle: Positionen mit Mengen, Bezeichnungen und Preisen (Flur EG, Hauswirtschaftsraum)



Angebot: tabellarische Liste mit Stromkreis, Zählerplatz und Überspannungsschutz.



Rechnung Seite 3: Zimmer-Positionen mit Jalousieschalter, Steckdose und Datendose.



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Preisangebot mit Positionen (Badezimmer, Außenbereich, Garten) und Gesamtsumme.



Preisübersicht eines Wohnungsangebots mit Raumnamen und Nettosumme.


Is it even possible to say in general that an offer is overpriced, or do electricians all charge similar amounts because some services are priced separately, etc.?

Best regards
Gigiundzisis (our dog and our horse 🙂
Gigiundzisis18 Mar 2024 17:22
tristan01 schrieb:

Yes, perfect. That sounds like a good compromise. You really have to take it step by step. They really try to sell you everything. Many things you can actually do yourself or have done later. Of course, things like outdoor lighting are different.

What I still don’t understand... what exactly is a media distributor?

It’s a separate box, similar to the electrical panel. Otherwise, our modem would have just been mounted directly on the wall (which wouldn’t be a problem in the utility room), but instead, it is inside this media distribution cabinet, where all the LAN connections are routed from. We have a LAN outlet in the hallway and one in the living room. That way, we can connect our TV or an additional Wi-Fi extender.

Maybe try negotiating with the contractors as well. We told the drywallers that we already had another offer. Lo and behold, we got a better deal for taping and sanding.
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Stephan—
19 Mar 2024 10:46
Interior view of a technical distribution cabinet with cables, distributor and network components

In case anyone wants to see what a "media distribution cabinet" is.

This one is located on our upper floor and serves only that floor.
Orange – LAN cables (duplex) from individual rooms to the patch panel
White (currently only two active) – LAN cables that provide internet from the switch (D-Link) to the respective outlets
Televes – multiswitch, in case we want to use more than 4 TVs or activate all satellite outlets (currently only one TV in use)
White box on the left – power supply for an access point (Wi-Fi “router” for the upper floor), since the switch installed here does not support PoE
Two red connectors on the switch – fiber optic cables carrying internet from the network cabinet on the ground floor to the switch on the upper floor (plus two spare lines reserved)

Material cost for this cabinet with contents is approximately 300–400€.

…where the current approach seems to be “better to have and not need than to need and not have.” For example, only two of the possible 16 LAN ports on the upper floor are in use.

I should also mention that the electrician only installed the LAN cables; patching and connecting can be done by hand using standard tools for under 50€.
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sysrun80
19 Mar 2024 12:03
Our electrician also wanted to charge double the price for the "double" network outlet. So I decided to have only single outlets installed everywhere – plus roof overhangs at the corners of the house. There is no telephone or satellite/antenna cable throughout the entire house. I preferred to invest in network cables instead (these were lump sums with the general contractor).
The electrician installed the outlets flush with the wall – I did the rest myself. I had to redo about 50% of the outlets anyway (installed incorrectly or loosely).








Electrical distribution cabinet with cable bundles in the basement of a construction site.

Network cabinet with QNAP NAS (multiple hard drives), router and many cables.


The electrician would have probably charged me around 2,000 euros for a 10-inch (25 cm) cabinet and patch panel… Of course, they need to make a living too – but the prices being asked here were really unreasonable…
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Stephan—
19 Mar 2024 14:01
@sysrun80 :
What kind of satellite outlet and coaxial cable is shown in your first picture? You mentioned that everything was installed without satellite cable!? SAT over IP?

I’m curious about what else is technically possible.
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sysrun80
19 Mar 2024 14:34
This is the cable connection – but only for internet access. The "cable" goes from the back into the Fritzbox in the server cabinet. Recently, fiber optic has been added as well, but only a small contract as a backup. There was an offer recently to have fiber optic installed and to get the connection into the house for "free" – I prefer to pay 24 times 20 euros rather than 1,500 euros later just to have fiber installed.
Tolentino19 Mar 2024 15:26
And later on, you disconnect the cables and switch entirely to fiber optic / Why not?