ᐅ Cost Estimate for Electrical Planning

Created on: 18 Oct 2023 12:57
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Gigiundzisis
Hello dear community,

We have spent a long time researching and gathering information here, and would now like to share our electrical offer, which seems a bit high to us after reviewing other quotes in this forum. In particular, the electrician is unwilling to offer any discounts or allowances. On the contrary, we were arrogantly told that these are the best prices calculated for us and that we won’t find cheaper offers elsewhere...

To cut a long story short, €90 (about $98) net per electrical outlet is steep.

The construction method is clay block, where the outlet locations are already planned during the wall construction. No chasing or cutting channels will take place, so careful planning is essential.

The builder himself has only had good experiences with this electrician. As a precaution, we requested another quote and are currently waiting.

Construction will take place in the beautiful town of Oranienburg near Berlin.



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Is it even possible to say in general that an offer is overpriced, or do electricians all charge similar amounts because some services are priced separately, etc.?

Best regards
Gigiundzisis (our dog and our horse 🙂
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sysrun80
22 Oct 2023 10:40
For example, I have only basic single sockets in many places. If more are needed: just buy a hole saw, an electrical box, and a new frame. The electrician from our general contractor always just multiplied the price of a single box.
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HungrigerHugo
22 Oct 2023 10:41
xMisterDx schrieb:

This definitely gives the general contractor’s electrician a run for their money 😉
Because a simple electrical outlet generates the lowest, or actually no, profit in the overall cost calculation.
The profit comes from double and multiple outlets, where only one cable is needed but they charge the outlet price multiple times.

I definitely need to remember this; it’s an excellent tip!
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xMisterDx
22 Oct 2023 13:20
And in the end, even with double outlets, multiple power strips end up behind the cabinet again. Much more important than the number of outlets—which can easily be expanded almost without limit afterwards—is the placement of the outlets.

If you don’t plan your furniture down to the last detail beforehand... nothing will fit properly in the end.
tristan0118 Mar 2024 15:01
Gigiundzisis schrieb:

Yes, I’m actually a layperson in this area. I just googled it and saw that these are made of plastic and usually white. That’s what I consider standard.


What have you decided on now? Have you chosen an electrical configuration yet? We just went through this ourselves. I was really surprised by the offer. The media distributor for the network is apparently a joke. 1200€. According to our contract, five duplex LAN sockets were included. Unfortunately, the service to make them usable later was not included. Our electrician wanted to screw the patch panel, switch, and router directly to the wall. That’s not acceptable. So I bought the following items myself:

  • 19" network cabinet
  • 24-port patch panel
  • 48-port LAN switch
  • LAN cables for the cabinet


Altogether, this probably cost me about 350€. We patched and tested the cables ourselves. Maybe you have someone in your circle who can help with that. But 1200€? No way.

Electrical work was actually the most complex trade for us. It took five attempts to go through everything with the electrician and coordinate it.

Afterwards, we went through his offer, the building scope description, and the contract separately and compared everything, finding many discrepancies.

How did you proceed with him?
Gigiundzisis18 Mar 2024 15:20
tristan01 schrieb:

What have you decided on by now? Have you already chosen an electrical configuration? We just went through the same process. I was shocked by the offer. The media distributor for the network is supposed to be a joke. 1200€. Our contract included five duplex LAN outlets. Unfortunately, the service to make them usable afterwards was not included. Our electrician wanted to screw the patch panel, switch, and router directly to the wall. Not acceptable. So, I bought the following items myself:

  • 19" network cabinet
  • 24-port patch panel
  • 48-port LAN switch
  • LAN cables for the cabinet

That cost me about 350€ (about 370 USD) in total. We patched and tested the cables ourselves. Maybe you have someone around who can do that. But 1200€ (about 1300 USD)? No way.

Electrical work was actually the most complex trade for us. It took five attempts to go over everything with the electrician and coordinate properly.

Afterwards, we reviewed his offer, the scope of work description, and the contract separately, compared them, and found many discrepancies.

What was your final agreement with him?


Thanks for your feedback. We decided to keep all possible items as simple as possible and ended up with a total of 8000€ (about 8800 USD). We clarified any extras with the electrician (employee) on site (no surprise, the boss didn’t want to be there). Additional sockets were 30€ (about 33 USD) each, etc. We even received the media distributor for free since it was apparently priced neutrally...
tristan0118 Mar 2024 17:08
Gigiundzisis schrieb:

Hey, thanks for the feedback. We agreed to keep all possible items as simple as possible and ended up at €8000. Anything additional was arranged directly with the electrician (employee) on site (surprise, surprise, the boss didn’t want to be there). Extra sockets cost €30 each, etc. We even got the media distributor for free because apparently it was priced neutrally...

Yes, perfect. That sounds like a good compromise. You have to take it step by step. They really try to sell you everything. Many things you can actually do yourself or have done later. Of course, things like exterior lighting shouldn’t be handled by yourself.

What I still don’t understand… what exactly is a media distributor?