Hello everyone,
we are building a detached house with Allkauf Haus in Baden-Württemberg. This building company apparently has only one supplier for exterior doors and windows, who does not offer models with integrated contact sensors or insect screens. It also seems impossible to source windows and doors from a third-party supplier, as these are not allowed to be processed at the manufacturing facility, and without windows and doors the prefabricated elements for the house will not be delivered.
Therefore, I am currently looking for a wired solution to retrofit contact sensors on the outside windows and doors.
I only need simple status indicators: window open, window tilted, or door open. A simple reed switch that can later be read by my smart home system. Under no circumstances do I want a proprietary system or wireless transmission.
Do you have any ideas on how to retrofit wired sensors in new windows and doors? A manufacturer for this? Or an alternative idea?
Thank you and best regards
Chris
we are building a detached house with Allkauf Haus in Baden-Württemberg. This building company apparently has only one supplier for exterior doors and windows, who does not offer models with integrated contact sensors or insect screens. It also seems impossible to source windows and doors from a third-party supplier, as these are not allowed to be processed at the manufacturing facility, and without windows and doors the prefabricated elements for the house will not be delivered.
Therefore, I am currently looking for a wired solution to retrofit contact sensors on the outside windows and doors.
I only need simple status indicators: window open, window tilted, or door open. A simple reed switch that can later be read by my smart home system. Under no circumstances do I want a proprietary system or wireless transmission.
Do you have any ideas on how to retrofit wired sensors in new windows and doors? A manufacturer for this? Or an alternative idea?
Thank you and best regards
Chris
Surface-mounted window contacts are also available from almost every major manufacturer (Winkhaus, Roto, Sitec, etc.). The question is: how do you plan to route the cables? You need to connect the contacts to a sensor or alternatively to a terminal box, and then extend them towards the central control unit. If no wiring is installed within the frame and there are no cable conduits in the window and door reveals, you will have to run everything on the surface – which simply looks quite unattractive.
In your position, I would consider using battery-free EnOcean window handles (Hoppe) – with the appropriate gateway, you can integrate them into any smart home system, and in my opinion, they look much more elegant.
In your position, I would consider using battery-free EnOcean window handles (Hoppe) – with the appropriate gateway, you can integrate them into any smart home system, and in my opinion, they look much more elegant.
Thank you!
The contacts for closing must be integrated into the window or door.
I am doing the electrical work and the entire smart home system myself. Concealed wiring is planned at the windows and doors.
I use similar systems in my apartment, retrofitted. For eight years now. And I am very dissatisfied. Wireless, after all. That will definitely not be an option in a new building, because here you have the unique chance to do it better.
Harakiri schrieb:
Window contacts are also available as surface-mounted versions, offered by nearly every major manufacturer (Winkhaus, Roto, Sitec, etc.).
The contacts for closing must be integrated into the window or door.
Harakiri schrieb:
How do you plan to manage the cable routing?
I am doing the electrical work and the entire smart home system myself. Concealed wiring is planned at the windows and doors.
Harakiri schrieb:
If I were you, I would consider battery-free EnOcean window handles (Hoppe).
I use similar systems in my apartment, retrofitted. For eight years now. And I am very dissatisfied. Wireless, after all. That will definitely not be an option in a new building, because here you have the unique chance to do it better.
And how do you envision the connection between the flush-mounted cable and the window contact? Do you plan to drill through the window frame while it is already installed? How will you locate the cable outlet, and how do you intend to thread the window contact cable?
I understand the concerns regarding wireless systems, but EnOcean works almost flawlessly for these purposes when properly designed.
I understand the concerns regarding wireless systems, but EnOcean works almost flawlessly for these purposes when properly designed.
Harakiri schrieb:
And how do you imagine the connection between the flush-mounted cable and the window sensor? Do you plan to drill through the window frame while it is installed? How do you locate the cable outlet, and how do you plan to thread the window sensor cable? I have done this myself multiple times, at least 30 windows and 10 doors.
If the window comes from the manufacturer with integrated sensors, there is a cable coming out of the frame on one side. This is routed into the empty conduit and extended there using a crimp connector. This not only works almost without issues but always works without problems.
We have planned a timber frame construction and are doing the drywall ourselves. That’s why all walls are still empty (no insulation) and open during window installation. I am not worried at all about making the connection.
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