ᐅ Layout of the upper floor – master bedroom area / 2 children's bedrooms with bathroom

Tobias579 schrieb:

I would like to know if you still see potential for optimization in the upper floor.

Yes, that does cost time at this stage

hanghaus2023 schrieb:

But these are already working drawings.

However, it causes a significant delay. I strongly advise you to take the radical rescue step ("start from scratch") anyway, or you will regret it deeply. Just because something can be drawn doesn’t mean you want it built.

mayglow schrieb:

Otherwise: looks like it was rushed together until all rooms were included?

There are three things immediately apparent in this floor plan, and the first two are serious problems:
1. The planning started on the ground floor (see: “The upper floor takes priority”), but you cannot derive the more complex floor from the simpler one;
2. The planning priorities are killing the upper floor here – apparently a separate walk-in closet, a children’s bathroom, and the commonly demanded nominally equal-sized children’s bedrooms – a room program that cannot be successfully squeezed into a villa with a footprint of 975cm (approximately 32 feet) per side;
3. The planning was entrusted to a building application drafter included in the construction price.

hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Show us the plot and the ground floor?

Sort of, please provide the plot, building boundary, budget, and requirements profile (see questionnaire). Knowing the ground floor would only be useful (because of the downpipes) if the upper floor was at least acceptable in a basic form. Otherwise, it is better to develop the upper floor anew from the revised concept.

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11ant schrieb:

a room layout that cannot be successfully squeezed into a replacement villa with an edge length of 975cm (385 inches);

By the way, not even in four minutes of processing time – of course it should say "into a ..." :-(

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Oh dear, I also sense an advanced stage with a problematic design. Please provide the ground floor plan and site plan as well, otherwise it is not possible to suggest any meaningful alternatives.

I can only agree with "zero and again."

It looks like someone played Tetris.

haydee schrieb:

I can only agree completely.

Neither you nor others giving this advice mean it harshly, mind you (I think I briefly saw a deletion request from the original poster here earlier). But even though the timing pain is great, this remains the only sensible solution. Without a fundamental restart, this cannot be salvaged, though it is urgently recommended.

haydee schrieb:

Looks like someone played Tetris.

As I said, three wrong turns are enough to get stuck in the mud:
1. 170 sqm (1830 sq ft) desired room program with a 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) floor area budget
2. designing the upper floor only after finalizing the ground floor
3. having a "dead or alive enabler" as the planner instead of an architect who is willing to challenge when necessary.

The original poster should now – once they are done with the (absolutely understandable) frustration – proceed as follows:
1. reconsider the concept of squeezing through a tiny sleeping nook via a mostly symbolic walk-in closet into a master bathroom with two doors, and accept looking at closet doors from the bed and accessing the bathroom via the hallway in order to save the upper floor layout without damage;
2. read the textbook example from Princess @Shiny86 https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissoptimierung-stadtvilla-aufschuettueberlegung.33680/ and, based on those insights,
3. redevelop the upper floor along with the bathroom situation.
Discarding the current ground floor will be an unavoidable collateral damage in this process.

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With a family bathroom, a master bedroom that doesn’t feel cramped, and two children’s bedrooms, you get a nice, well-organized, and relatively spacious floor plan on the upper floor.