ᐅ Floor plan design, two full stories, approximately 130–140 square meters without a basement
Created on: 29 Jul 2021 16:45
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prm2021
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
K a t j a schrieb:
Your constant complaining that it’s finally enough is a bit annoying. The original poster (OP) is here specifically to perfect their floor plan. If it’s taking too long for you, you can always offer advice and support elsewhere in the meantime. The OP had an absolutely terrible architect who, with every design adjustment, removed a flaw in one corner only to create a new one in another. I don’t know how they managed to get rid of that architect at a plot tied to a specific builder, but it was definitely a relief. Now they have a new architect with whom changes finally result in net improvements. That said, an approach to about 91% of the optimum has already been achieved. Trying to push it to 92% following the Pareto principle would only be foolish. I don’t expect further giant leaps like those made in recent weeks, and the new architect shouldn’t be driven away. It would be wise to take a page from Princess @Shiny86 or Ilsebill Fischer and keep a practical perspective. Maintaining a clear view of what is feasible does no harm.
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If you pay 500K or however much it costs for the house, you might be okay with 90% efficiency. But it’s not your house – most people want it to be perfect if they’re going to pay for it their whole life. So if the dream wardrobe doesn’t fit into the space, the original poster might be really frustrated. Then they remember that 11ant once pressured them to stop planning, and you end up being blamed for the whole mess. 😱
I am just trying to be a modest replacement for what our choir misses in voice from @Nordlys. Happy to stay respectfully below the princess ideal, without any frills, and if I remember correctly, even with a door in the kitchen somehow hung "backwards" or something like that. And (still ???) far from having to regret missing perfection. After hard work comes relaxation!
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Hello everyone,
The structural engineer requires changes due to the reinforcement, and now we have to reduce the size of the windows in the bathroom and bedroom.
Alternatively, we could move the bed closer to a different window. The top side of the plan faces north and is near the neighboring house.
I would like to enlarge the window in the children’s room on the north side. Do you have any suggestions for the bedroom?
Thank you

The structural engineer requires changes due to the reinforcement, and now we have to reduce the size of the windows in the bathroom and bedroom.
Alternatively, we could move the bed closer to a different window. The top side of the plan faces north and is near the neighboring house.
I would like to enlarge the window in the children’s room on the north side. Do you have any suggestions for the bedroom?
Thank you
prm2021 schrieb:
The structural engineer is requesting changes due to the cerclage, and now we have to reduce the size of the windows in the bathroom and bedroom.
Or move the bed towards a different window. What does a cerclage have to do with the structural integrity of a building, and how does moving a bed have the same structural effect as reducing the size of a window???
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11ant schrieb:
What does a cervical cerclage have to do with a building’s structural stability, and how is moving a bed structurally equivalent to reducing the size of a window???You know what I was thinking, a vertical reinforced concrete element. Cerclage in Croatian. Regards
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