ᐅ Floor Plan Ideas for a Single-Family Home Extension with Three Children’s Bedrooms and a Home Office
Created on: 7 Nov 2023 19:41
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Ben_desHello everyone,
We are recently a family of five (three little girls; 4 months, 3 and 6 years old) currently living on the first floor (84 sqm (900 sq ft)) of our old building. My mother lives on the identical ground floor, and the upper floor (second floor) is partly rented out. I also have a small room next to the entrance of the rental apartment. The attic is converted but not really practical since it is only accessible via a pull-down attic ladder.
We have a garden adjoining the north side of the existing house. The garage is located west of that. Due to lack of space, we naturally need more living area. After initial talks with prefab house manufacturers, we first focused on modular units (“Flying Spaces” by Schwörerhaus and others). However, we quickly warmed up to the idea of building a small extension.
This would have the advantages of:
- no mixing of old and new constructions
- no construction work inside the apartment while living there
- possibility to rent out and thus refinance the new building
Since I thought a prefab house would be built quickly, I have been looking around wildly among prefab providers. Hanse Haus said last week that the whole process (from contract signing to moving in) for turnkey completion is around 16-18 months. From the foundation slab construction, another 6 months. Therefore, I am also looking into modular homes. The idea that the house can be ready to move into within days (or weeks) is definitely appealing. However, these are mostly small companies, and the interiors never look as nice in their photos as the marketing pictures of the prefab houses.
What we need, worth mentioning for our single-family home, is:
- 3 children’s rooms
- 2 bathrooms (one large and one small)
- 1 (small) office
- foundation slab (I would use the existing basement of the old building)
- open kitchen
- heating system like Viessmann’s “invincible” or something comparable that does not require a technical room. I like the idea in theory. If it only has disadvantages, please let me know. I have no experience and only think the theory is great.
Otherwise, it should simply be a nice, bright, and airy little house that doesn’t look “cheap.” Apparently, some providers offer houses that look like that. I hope for your help here.
Requirements of the development plan are:
- gable roof (possibly a hipped roof, but whether that fits aesthetically…)
- plot ratio 1: 0.6
- plot ratio 2 (with areas): 0.8
- number of floors: 1.2
The plot size is 515 sqm (5545 sq ft). Attached is the plot plan with the old building and the colored plan for the new house.
The size results from the setback requirements.
If I keep the garage and build onto it, just like on the existing house, I have 8.5 x 8.5 m (28 x 28 ft). That’s not a lot, of course. But I have room for 2 full floors plus attic.
Alternatively, I could demolish the garage (which is of course a cost factor), which would give us 2.5 m (8 ft) more in width. So without the garage: 11 x 8.5 m (36 x 28 ft).
I have penciled this in on the plan without the garage.
Since the old building basically dates back to 1939, there is no clear parking space regulation for an extension. Today we had an appointment at the planning office, and I will get feedback in the next few days whether I need more than four parking spaces. If not, the existing driveway and the front garden are sufficient.
At first, I didn’t think much about the floor plan. I figured I would leave that to the professionals before I make any nonsense. After talking to prefab house manufacturers, I’m already limited in space anyway, so I can’t have many demands here. I think… 🙂
We have already visited show houses of
- Schwörerhaus, for Flying Spaces and prefab houses. They said we should “decide what we want and then get back.”
- Allkauf Haus (planning in progress, offer pending. Will be between 350k - 400k)
- Hanse Haus (planning in progress, will get back with a quote)
- Received a phone offer from Regnauer over 380k plus foundation slab, plus 15k for finishes, and plus earthworks.
I still want to check out prefab houses from
- Okal Haus (I really like the Hessdorf show house because of the porch with balcony)
- Fingerhut Haus (very pleasant gentleman)
- Luxhaus
Otherwise, I have price lists from Danwood. There are sometimes not so positive comments online. But that might be the case with many providers. Contact and prices are definitely friendly.
My questions:
- What do you think about the mentioned prefab house providers? Are some known for higher or lower quality? We would like a wooden house. They are said to have a better indoor climate, currently be cheaper due to wood prices, and supposedly faster to build. Although I don’t know if that still applies when Hanse Haus tells me 16-18 months. I’ve heard some good things about Regnauer, but only from a friend of a colleague…
- Would you recommend a prefab house for a wooden house, or does it make more sense financially and practically to have it built by local trades? I have contacted a local carpentry and planning office and am still waiting for an offer.
- What do you think of the floor plan? Do you have ideas on how you would nicely realize it? I’m thankful for any tips.
Attached are the
- floor plan: green is the garden, black is the old building, and blue is the floor plan for the new house.
- view from the north of the old building, where the new house is planned
- view from the house towards the garden (north).
I hope it comes across that I have studied this in depth. However, I’m still unsure about many points if no professional gives me feedback. I have no expertise and don’t want to miss anything.
Thanks in advance for reading and for your help!
Good luck
Bendes
We are recently a family of five (three little girls; 4 months, 3 and 6 years old) currently living on the first floor (84 sqm (900 sq ft)) of our old building. My mother lives on the identical ground floor, and the upper floor (second floor) is partly rented out. I also have a small room next to the entrance of the rental apartment. The attic is converted but not really practical since it is only accessible via a pull-down attic ladder.
We have a garden adjoining the north side of the existing house. The garage is located west of that. Due to lack of space, we naturally need more living area. After initial talks with prefab house manufacturers, we first focused on modular units (“Flying Spaces” by Schwörerhaus and others). However, we quickly warmed up to the idea of building a small extension.
This would have the advantages of:
- no mixing of old and new constructions
- no construction work inside the apartment while living there
- possibility to rent out and thus refinance the new building
Since I thought a prefab house would be built quickly, I have been looking around wildly among prefab providers. Hanse Haus said last week that the whole process (from contract signing to moving in) for turnkey completion is around 16-18 months. From the foundation slab construction, another 6 months. Therefore, I am also looking into modular homes. The idea that the house can be ready to move into within days (or weeks) is definitely appealing. However, these are mostly small companies, and the interiors never look as nice in their photos as the marketing pictures of the prefab houses.
What we need, worth mentioning for our single-family home, is:
- 3 children’s rooms
- 2 bathrooms (one large and one small)
- 1 (small) office
- foundation slab (I would use the existing basement of the old building)
- open kitchen
- heating system like Viessmann’s “invincible” or something comparable that does not require a technical room. I like the idea in theory. If it only has disadvantages, please let me know. I have no experience and only think the theory is great.
Otherwise, it should simply be a nice, bright, and airy little house that doesn’t look “cheap.” Apparently, some providers offer houses that look like that. I hope for your help here.
Requirements of the development plan are:
- gable roof (possibly a hipped roof, but whether that fits aesthetically…)
- plot ratio 1: 0.6
- plot ratio 2 (with areas): 0.8
- number of floors: 1.2
The plot size is 515 sqm (5545 sq ft). Attached is the plot plan with the old building and the colored plan for the new house.
The size results from the setback requirements.
If I keep the garage and build onto it, just like on the existing house, I have 8.5 x 8.5 m (28 x 28 ft). That’s not a lot, of course. But I have room for 2 full floors plus attic.
Alternatively, I could demolish the garage (which is of course a cost factor), which would give us 2.5 m (8 ft) more in width. So without the garage: 11 x 8.5 m (36 x 28 ft).
I have penciled this in on the plan without the garage.
Since the old building basically dates back to 1939, there is no clear parking space regulation for an extension. Today we had an appointment at the planning office, and I will get feedback in the next few days whether I need more than four parking spaces. If not, the existing driveway and the front garden are sufficient.
At first, I didn’t think much about the floor plan. I figured I would leave that to the professionals before I make any nonsense. After talking to prefab house manufacturers, I’m already limited in space anyway, so I can’t have many demands here. I think… 🙂
We have already visited show houses of
- Schwörerhaus, for Flying Spaces and prefab houses. They said we should “decide what we want and then get back.”
- Allkauf Haus (planning in progress, offer pending. Will be between 350k - 400k)
- Hanse Haus (planning in progress, will get back with a quote)
- Received a phone offer from Regnauer over 380k plus foundation slab, plus 15k for finishes, and plus earthworks.
I still want to check out prefab houses from
- Okal Haus (I really like the Hessdorf show house because of the porch with balcony)
- Fingerhut Haus (very pleasant gentleman)
- Luxhaus
Otherwise, I have price lists from Danwood. There are sometimes not so positive comments online. But that might be the case with many providers. Contact and prices are definitely friendly.
My questions:
- What do you think about the mentioned prefab house providers? Are some known for higher or lower quality? We would like a wooden house. They are said to have a better indoor climate, currently be cheaper due to wood prices, and supposedly faster to build. Although I don’t know if that still applies when Hanse Haus tells me 16-18 months. I’ve heard some good things about Regnauer, but only from a friend of a colleague…
- Would you recommend a prefab house for a wooden house, or does it make more sense financially and practically to have it built by local trades? I have contacted a local carpentry and planning office and am still waiting for an offer.
- What do you think of the floor plan? Do you have ideas on how you would nicely realize it? I’m thankful for any tips.
Attached are the
- floor plan: green is the garden, black is the old building, and blue is the floor plan for the new house.
- view from the north of the old building, where the new house is planned
- view from the house towards the garden (north).
I hope it comes across that I have studied this in depth. However, I’m still unsure about many points if no professional gives me feedback. I have no expertise and don’t want to miss anything.
Thanks in advance for reading and for your help!
Good luck
Bendes
I understand the issue, but I don’t understand the implementation.
I can follow that. You want to turn a single-family house into a duplex. Or actually, it already is a duplex. Regarding that, the first thing I would check (or have checked) is whether that’s even feasible on your plot of land. Second dwelling unit, house number, possibly subdividing the lot, floor area ratio still fitting, etc. That’s what the building authority (building permit/planning permission office) is for. Home builders usually don’t check these things initially; they calculate a general price for the house first, and only much later do they try to solve these critical issues.
I actually thought you needed the rooms yourselves. So why rental?
Are these in the existing house or the new extension?
And how is that supposed to work in everyday life? Kids sleep in the new building, you in the old? And then constantly going back and forth between two entrances and buildings?
Do you plan to relocate the existing basement? Demolish the old house? Or how exactly do you want to use the existing basement? There’s a house standing on it!
There won’t be much garden left then. The little girls only get the balcony.
Why don’t you just give notice to the tenants, move the children to the attic, and use the money to renovate the interior for yourselves?
Ben_des schrieb:
However, we quickly got used to the idea of adding a small extension to the house.
I can follow that. You want to turn a single-family house into a duplex. Or actually, it already is a duplex. Regarding that, the first thing I would check (or have checked) is whether that’s even feasible on your plot of land. Second dwelling unit, house number, possibly subdividing the lot, floor area ratio still fitting, etc. That’s what the building authority (building permit/planning permission office) is for. Home builders usually don’t check these things initially; they calculate a general price for the house first, and only much later do they try to solve these critical issues.
Ben_des schrieb:
Rental and thus refinancing of the house possible
I actually thought you needed the rooms yourselves. So why rental?
Ben_des schrieb:
What we need in our single-family house that’s worth mentioning:
- 3 children’s bedrooms
- 2 bathrooms (one large and one small)
- 1 (small) office
Are these in the existing house or the new extension?
And how is that supposed to work in everyday life? Kids sleep in the new building, you in the old? And then constantly going back and forth between two entrances and buildings?
Ben_des schrieb:
Foundation slab (I would use the existing basement of the old house)
Do you plan to relocate the existing basement? Demolish the old house? Or how exactly do you want to use the existing basement? There’s a house standing on it!
Ben_des schrieb:
Floor plan: green is the garden
There won’t be much garden left then. The little girls only get the balcony.
Why don’t you just give notice to the tenants, move the children to the attic, and use the money to renovate the interior for yourselves?
ypg schrieb:
Do you want to move the basement from the existing building? Tear down the existing building? Or how do you plan to use the existing basement? There is a house on top of it after all!I didn’t understand that either.ypg schrieb:
Why don’t you give notice to the tenants, move the kids into the attic, and use that money to renovate the interior for yourselves?I agree with that.Ben_des schrieb:
Since the old building basically dates from 1939,Are you referring to the age of the basement? — I estimate the house itself to be younger, as I mentioned earlier, and your sketched overall building would have a construction depth of 22 meters (72 feet) (!)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Order of solutions:
1. Terminate the tenant & take over the area
2. Optimize the existing building (e.g., balconies can also be enclosed)
3. Forego driveway & garage & build an extension onto the existing house there (if allowed by building permit/planning permission and distance regulations)
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(way at the back) Completely build over the garden as you suggested
Danwood provides decent quality for standard solutions and is hard to beat when it comes to price/performance for fully turnkey solutions without luxury requirements. However, with your situation, a standard solution will certainly not be possible (fire protection, etc.), so I don’t think Danwood should necessarily be your first point of contact.
It is probably all solvable in some way, but building a prefabricated house there will also be a logistical challenge – is access with a truck and crane even feasible without additional costs?
1. Terminate the tenant & take over the area
2. Optimize the existing building (e.g., balconies can also be enclosed)
3. Forego driveway & garage & build an extension onto the existing house there (if allowed by building permit/planning permission and distance regulations)
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(way at the back) Completely build over the garden as you suggested
Danwood provides decent quality for standard solutions and is hard to beat when it comes to price/performance for fully turnkey solutions without luxury requirements. However, with your situation, a standard solution will certainly not be possible (fire protection, etc.), so I don’t think Danwood should necessarily be your first point of contact.
It is probably all solvable in some way, but building a prefabricated house there will also be a logistical challenge – is access with a truck and crane even feasible without additional costs?
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hanghaus20239 Nov 2023 12:27What does the zoning plan say about the building envelope? I really can’t imagine such a huge building envelope. Isn’t the floor area ratio already fully utilized?
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