ᐅ Roof Renovation with an Architect – How to Achieve Your Renovated Roof
Created on: 11 Oct 2023 08:50
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JonasPaul11 Oct 2023 08:50Hello,
We are planning a roof renovation and recently had an on-site meeting at the end of May with an architect and the carpenter responsible for the work. Prior to this, the architect had prepared a proposal for the planning services, which we accepted earlier this year.
During the meeting, two options for renovating the roof were discussed. One option would not change the exterior appearance of the house, while the other would—although this second option would probably be better. To estimate how much the exterior would change, it was agreed that the architect would prepare a drawing showing the proposed changes.
He estimated a timeframe of two weeks to complete this. After four weeks, we followed up for the first time. After many phone calls, some of which were answered only by his secretary, written inquiries, and then numerous calls trying to reach him personally, we finally received a drawing. However, this drawing only shows the option that does not affect the exterior appearance. Unfortunately, this is not helpful for us. How would you proceed from here? We have scheduled a personal meeting with him at his office next week.
As background information: the renovation is very complex. We have already consulted two other architects, but neither was very interested in taking it on. The renovation was originally planned for this fall but now needs to be done by spring at the latest.
As an alternative, I am considering asking him again about the reasons for the delay. Above all, we need to set firm deadlines this time. I don’t want to wait another 4–5 months only to risk missing the start again (the renovation can only be carried out in spring or fall because the roof will remain open for an extended period).
Alternatively, we might part ways immediately because it’s clear that he is not very motivated either. However, this raises the question again of where to find someone who can help, since the renovation also needs on-site oversight and therefore someone local. I am also unsure how to terminate the contract or how much he might charge for his unusable drawing.
We are planning a roof renovation and recently had an on-site meeting at the end of May with an architect and the carpenter responsible for the work. Prior to this, the architect had prepared a proposal for the planning services, which we accepted earlier this year.
During the meeting, two options for renovating the roof were discussed. One option would not change the exterior appearance of the house, while the other would—although this second option would probably be better. To estimate how much the exterior would change, it was agreed that the architect would prepare a drawing showing the proposed changes.
He estimated a timeframe of two weeks to complete this. After four weeks, we followed up for the first time. After many phone calls, some of which were answered only by his secretary, written inquiries, and then numerous calls trying to reach him personally, we finally received a drawing. However, this drawing only shows the option that does not affect the exterior appearance. Unfortunately, this is not helpful for us. How would you proceed from here? We have scheduled a personal meeting with him at his office next week.
As background information: the renovation is very complex. We have already consulted two other architects, but neither was very interested in taking it on. The renovation was originally planned for this fall but now needs to be done by spring at the latest.
As an alternative, I am considering asking him again about the reasons for the delay. Above all, we need to set firm deadlines this time. I don’t want to wait another 4–5 months only to risk missing the start again (the renovation can only be carried out in spring or fall because the roof will remain open for an extended period).
Alternatively, we might part ways immediately because it’s clear that he is not very motivated either. However, this raises the question again of where to find someone who can help, since the renovation also needs on-site oversight and therefore someone local. I am also unsure how to terminate the contract or how much he might charge for his unusable drawing.
JonasPaul schrieb:
or how much money he wants for his useless drawing. Unfortunately, your post isn’t much better: we have to guess what it might be about. Roof renovation and an architect don’t necessarily go together at first. The assumption (though you haven’t really informed us so far) is likely 1. that it concerns a flat roof, and 2. that it should either be renovated with the appearance remaining almost unchanged or converted into a pitched roof with a significantly different appearance (and possibly also used and extended). Perhaps you could illustrate your post with pictures of the current condition and explain what exactly caused the damage.
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JonasPaul11 Oct 2023 15:2211ant schrieb:
Unfortunately, your post isn’t much better: we have to guess what it might be about. Roof renovation and architect usually don’t go together at first glance. The assumption (although you haven’t clearly explained it to us yet) is likely 1. that it concerns a flat roof and 2. that it should be either renovated with minimal changes to the appearance or converted into a pitched roof with significant changes in appearance (and possibly even used differently, with new structures added). Maybe you could illustrate your post with pictures of the current condition and explain what the actual damage triggering this is.Hi, why is it relevant what exactly is going to be done? I have a serious construction defect that needs to be fixed. One option involves covering the existing materials, improving the connections, and correcting the wrongly used materials. The second option is a “second” roof structure where the height would change somewhat. I didn’t want to go into detail on this because the topic is complicated, and I could write pages explaining why it’s like this.The architect himself suggested option 2, pointing out that we could be certain to solve problems like sound insulation that way. However, as mentioned, the height of the house would change, and I wanted that visualized. I don’t want the renovation to be immediately visible from the outside, because it would also be possible to take measures from the inside as well as the outside. The roof structure has external insulation on top of it.
I can explain in more detail if needed, but honestly, I thought this was rather about: contract awarded, work done off-target (failure to meet the brief), and how to proceed now.
The fact is, it cannot be done without an architect; it is too complicated for the contractor to just handle on their own.
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JonasPaul13 Oct 2023 13:42Our appointment that was supposed to take place today was changed by the secretary from an in-person meeting to a phone call tomorrow. Honestly, I’m already dreading the whole thing again. Considering everything we have experienced during the construction, at this point I just want a new roof and some peace of mind. I don’t understand how I could accept a contract when I have no interest or time for it.
Does anyone have an idea how I can get out of accepting the offer for the planning service now, and how we can agree on a payment? Can he charge for hours since he already created a drawing? Then we would probably end up arguing again about how much that was.
Does anyone have an idea how I can get out of accepting the offer for the planning service now, and how we can agree on a payment? Can he charge for hours since he already created a drawing? Then we would probably end up arguing again about how much that was.
Just a comment: Any changes to the building volume always require a building permit / planning permission, so I would factor that into your timeline.
With the limited information you’ve provided (unclear exactly where the problem lies, etc.), it is otherwise difficult to give advice.
With the limited information you’ve provided (unclear exactly where the problem lies, etc.), it is otherwise difficult to give advice.
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JonasPaul13 Oct 2023 19:38leschaf schrieb:
Just a comment: Changes to the building volume always require a building permit/planning permission, so I would factor that into your timeline.
With the limited information you’ve provided (unclear where exactly the issue lies, etc.), it’s otherwise difficult to give advice.What exactly do you need from me?I have commissioned planning services, but unfortunately haven’t received them yet.
The architect submitted the following proposal, which I accepted:
“Based on the site inspection, the cause of the damage will be identified and a description/presentation of the remediation proposal will be provided.
20 engineering hours and 10 draftsman/technician hours.”
The offer is dated March 10, 2023, the site inspection took place at the end of May, and so far I have only received one drawing, which essentially sketches the current structure of the roof and includes the note: Replace perlite and rebuild so that vapor tightness can be connected, connection is not compliant with regulations.
However, as described above, during the site inspection we agreed that he would show us what Option 2 (a second roof frame above the current one) would look like and send us the drawing within 2 weeks.
My problem is that I have not yet received the agreed drawing, or it possibly hasn’t been created at all. Therefore, I cannot decide whether to proceed with Option 1 or Option 2.
The building volume will not change due to the new roof.
The architect’s secretary promised to set up a web meeting for tomorrow instead of today’s in-person appointment. So far, we haven’t received anything.
I feel like I’m being strung along.
How can I properly cancel the acceptance of this offer? Or do I have to wait forever for him to finally carry out the assignment? Is it sufficient to set a deadline and, if that passes, withdraw acceptance?
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