ᐅ Small Plot, Narrow Driveway – Required Space for Turning Around
Created on: 23 Sep 2023 08:06
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Bauen189923 Sep 2023 08:06Hello everyone,
We have purchased a backland plot in the city and would like to start building on it now.
Our problem is the 3-meter (10 feet) wide and 25-meter (82 feet) long driveway.
As can be seen in the picture, a swept path curve has already been drawn to the lower area, so that we can reach the 90-degree, also 3-meter (10 feet) wide driveway in front of the house.
However, we don’t want to have to back out of this long driveway forever and definitely want an option to turn around both from the garage at the top and from the parking space in front of the house below.
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden space as possible, we are reluctant to move the house further east.
Are there also reverse swept path curves that show the driving route?
How much space do we need? Is the swept path already drawn sufficient to turn around with a single maneuver?
Personally, I see the problem more from the garage at the top than from the parking space. Do you agree?
We need to split the front part of the plot soon, and therefore we have to determine exactly how much space we require.
Our car is an Opel Astra (approximately 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) long).
Or do you think a diagonal line would even be more practical?
Thank you all in advance for any help and feedback.

We have purchased a backland plot in the city and would like to start building on it now.
Our problem is the 3-meter (10 feet) wide and 25-meter (82 feet) long driveway.
As can be seen in the picture, a swept path curve has already been drawn to the lower area, so that we can reach the 90-degree, also 3-meter (10 feet) wide driveway in front of the house.
However, we don’t want to have to back out of this long driveway forever and definitely want an option to turn around both from the garage at the top and from the parking space in front of the house below.
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden space as possible, we are reluctant to move the house further east.
Are there also reverse swept path curves that show the driving route?
How much space do we need? Is the swept path already drawn sufficient to turn around with a single maneuver?
Personally, I see the problem more from the garage at the top than from the parking space. Do you agree?
We need to split the front part of the plot soon, and therefore we have to determine exactly how much space we require.
Our car is an Opel Astra (approximately 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) long).
Or do you think a diagonal line would even be more practical?
Thank you all in advance for any help and feedback.
Bauen1899 schrieb:
Our issue is the driveway, which is 3 meters (10 feet) wide and 25 meters (82 feet) long.This is not a problem, but a fact. Reversing 20 meters (66 feet) and then maneuvering again, especially in darkness and rain, doesn’t always work in one attempt.
As a result, the car remains stopped in the driveway.
If the plot is small, there is no space left for a turning area.
More important is a gate that is 3.5 to 4 meters (11.5 to 13 feet) wide to allow easy access to the property.
We drive in backwards and out forwards.
Is the plan oriented to true north? I would position the house differently.
To build on what @Nida35a said, the specific conditions of the plot apply. The house should then be adapted accordingly.
Why isn’t the house placed further to the right in the plan? Isn’t that more than 5 meters (16 feet)?
To build on what @Nida35a said, the specific conditions of the plot apply. The house should then be adapted accordingly.
Why isn’t the house placed further to the right in the plan? Isn’t that more than 5 meters (16 feet)?
ypg schrieb:
Why isn’t the house positioned further to the right? Isn’t that more than 5 meters (16 feet)? Bauen1899 schrieb:
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden as possible, we prefer not to move the house further east. I found this again.
You apparently have “enough” garden space on the south side. Moving the house doesn’t make the plot smaller, it just changes how the space is used… exactly: where the space is needed, here on the west side, you end up with more room.
I don’t see any problem with prioritizing to have less space in one corner and more in another.
You can also repurpose the paved area or the turning space for gatherings to effectively “extend” the terrace. Since it is a kind of “back area,” you have privacy there and don’t need to present an anonymous front garden for strangers; you can use the front door for everyday evening access.
What you could also explore: slightly rotate the house and use a different property boundary as a parallel reference, so that diagonal lines in the driveway create more possibilities.
Has the neighbor uphill already built? If so, perhaps a fence could be omitted and, in exchange for snow removal, you could share the use of that area.
Oh (sigh)!
Aerial images—don’t crop the zoomed-in section of the cadastral map so tightly.
Do you really have to tell every single person asking this again and again?
I could imagine that the neighbor upstairs probably has the same problem (and it looks like next to your pink giraffe-neck driveway there is the same one in white for him). 1) Is there a fence between the two driveways?; 2) Would it be possible to at least unite the plot boundary rights on both sides for swinging with those of the residents on the other driveway side?
By the way, your house could also have a “soft corner” towards the garage recess...
Clarifications can answer questions in advance... see the introduction :-( :-( :-(
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Aerial images—don’t crop the zoomed-in section of the cadastral map so tightly.
Do you really have to tell every single person asking this again and again?
11ant schrieb:
We’ll see each other again when you have merged your three threads into a fourth one – as said, please start it with the completed questionnaire. This makes it easier for helpers and other readers, and ultimately benefits you the most.
ypg schrieb:
No answer?
Well, then good luck with the house construction.
11ant schrieb:
We’ll see each other in your merged thread (and gladly also with me, see the location of the timetable).
I could imagine that the neighbor upstairs probably has the same problem (and it looks like next to your pink giraffe-neck driveway there is the same one in white for him). 1) Is there a fence between the two driveways?; 2) Would it be possible to at least unite the plot boundary rights on both sides for swinging with those of the residents on the other driveway side?
By the way, your house could also have a “soft corner” towards the garage recess...
Clarifications can answer questions in advance... see the introduction :-( :-( :-(
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Ah (sigh)!Thanks. I’ll save myself the trouble of drawing my sketch here.Similar topics