ᐅ Impact of Outbuildings on Boundary Construction

Franzbrot schrieb:

According to the lady from the building authority, this is not possible with a 3 m (10 feet) distance,

I would seriously question that information. That would have been a case for @Escroda; maybe as a backup, you could ask in the "Dimeto" green forum. An obligation to extend the main building but then requiring setback compliance for the outbuildings seems strange to me, and trying to derive a setback obligation from the neighbor’s outbuilding, which normally benefits from boundary privileges, is even more far-fetched. My suspicion is that a diligent trainee misunderstood something.

mayglow schrieb:

I’m still confused — didn’t you basically say "yes, we are building an extension," and then in the same sentence say "we are planning a 3 m (10 feet) setback"? Isn’t that contradictory? Or are you partly building an extension (right on the boundary) and partly set back deeper (now maybe 3 m (10 feet) or even 6 m (20 feet) away)?

Follow the source in the second part of my post #10, there you can see the complexity: this involves a very specific semi-detached house, the neighbor has a typically small one, and the original poster (OP) a tiny one; both have outbuildings in the yard (the typical self-sufficient setup from the 1950s with rabbits from home slaughter and such). The semi-detached house is now to be replaced and they want to build an extension there; this was already the case in the old thread two years ago (see the mentioned link). Now the extension to the new house must observe a setback from the boundary on the cellar of the demolished semi-detached house, which I consider objectively nonsense and also a misunderstanding (or misinterpretation of the regulations), hence the referral to a specialist. And to add an additional setback surface compliance on top of that just makes the whole thing even more absurd.

---

https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/

Franzbrot schrieb:

directly on the property line.

Franzbrot schrieb:

According to the lady from the building authority, this is not allowed with a 3 m (10 ft) distance because of this shed/stable, but only with 6 m (20 ft) or 5 m (16 ft) without windows on that side.

I understand, as I remember the thread. I can imagine that the shed extension is possible, but the distance regulation then applies separately.
And I also believe that you would be better served in this forum or a similar one that is more specialized and technically qualified.

ypg schrieb:

I can imagine that attaching a shed is possible, but the setback rule then applies independently.

We regularly encounter the case of a one-sided boundary attachment—more often in rural areas than here—both in pairs and randomly. In new construction, the obligation to attach generally still applies, and I cannot recall any case where this would be different in the rear area. Except that, in a case like this, factual building envelopes are usually defined, where new buildings in the main building area may be two stories, and those in the shed area may be single-story.

---

https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/

11ant schrieb:

We regularly encounter the case of a single-sided boundary extension—more often in rural areas than here—both paired and unpaired. The obligation to build an extension generally applies to new constructions, and I cannot recall any case where this would be different at the rear. However, in such cases as this, practical building envelopes are usually established, allowing the new main buildings to be two stories and the outbuildings to be single story.

At the front, it was stated that we must extend onto the existing building.
At the rear (at the shed), we were not allowed to build an extension because (according to the information at the time) the shed/stable was classified as an outbuilding/non-habitable space, and no residential building could be attached to it.

How tall is the shed?

Isn't there a 3m (10 feet) height limit? If it is taller than 3m (10 feet), a larger minimum distance might be required.

hanse987 schrieb:

How tall is the shed?
Isn't there a 3m (10 feet) height limit? If it’s taller than 3m (10 feet), could a larger required setback apply?

This usually applies (in the typical case of detached buildings with setback distances on all sides) to privileged buildings, but not to the height itself, rather to the average wall height facing the boundary. And it applies to each building individually, not to neighboring properties.

I maintain my advice to escalate the question to a professional at the appropriate authority.

---

https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/