We visited the building authority today to present our plans and get a rough estimate of whether what we have planned would be possible.
The woman from the building authority said that the shed built by our neighbors on the property boundary (about 10 meters (33 feet) long) means that we have to keep a distance of 6 meters (20 feet) instead of 3 meters (10 feet). However, she will review this again.
To be honest, we are a bit shocked and also puzzled—especially because of the very narrow width of the plot itself, only 13.90 meters (46 feet)—that neither of the two architects we have worked with so far mentioned this.
Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? We were actually told that the setback distance does not affect us when it comes to these auxiliary buildings.
With a building area only 4.90 meters (16 feet) wide, construction is almost out of the question.
Building location: Schleswig-Holstein near the border to Hamburg.
The woman from the building authority said that the shed built by our neighbors on the property boundary (about 10 meters (33 feet) long) means that we have to keep a distance of 6 meters (20 feet) instead of 3 meters (10 feet). However, she will review this again.
To be honest, we are a bit shocked and also puzzled—especially because of the very narrow width of the plot itself, only 13.90 meters (46 feet)—that neither of the two architects we have worked with so far mentioned this.
Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? We were actually told that the setback distance does not affect us when it comes to these auxiliary buildings.
With a building area only 4.90 meters (16 feet) wide, construction is almost out of the question.
Building location: Schleswig-Holstein near the border to Hamburg.
Franzbrot schrieb:
We were actually told that the setback distance for these outbuildings does not affect us. Uh… that can’t be what this…
Franzbrot schrieb:
It’s right there above. Measured 8.75 meters (28.7 feet). … means when I ask what the “actually” refers to.
Are you uncomfortable with questions?
Do you want help? Actually, yes, right?
ypg schrieb:
Do you find follow-up questions uncomfortable?
Do you want to be helped? Actually, you do, right?No. I just don’t understand the nitpicking – “actually” doesn’t really mean anything special in this context. That’s how it was explained to us, but apparently it’s different now 🙂 What do you mean by your “actually, yes”? 😉
Yes, that was the point of the post.
Franzbrot schrieb:
What do you mean by your "actually already"? 😉Well, at least you understood that 😉
Franzbrot schrieb:
Today we visited the building authority to present our plans and get a rough estimate of whether what we have planned is feasible.
The official said that because of the shed built by our neighbors right on the property boundary (about 10 meters (33 feet) long), we now need to keep a distance of 6 meters (20 feet) instead of 3 meters (10 feet). She is going to double-check this.
Honestly, we are a bit shocked and puzzled, especially since our plot itself is quite narrow—only 13.90 meters (46 feet) wide—and none of the two architects we have worked with so far mentioned this. Wasn’t it, although not just recently but about two years ago, discussed that we might even have to build onto the neighboring semi-detached house and also onto the stables behind the houses, but in a lower height?
Franzbrot schrieb:
House number 83 is our plot. https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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ypg schrieb:
Well, at least you understood that 😉 11ant schrieb:
Wasn’t it mentioned “recently” – though already about two years ago – that you might even have to extend onto the neighboring semi-detached house and also onto the barns behind the houses, but lower there? Exactly!
We are planning to extend there as well. However, the neighbors, like us, also have a shed/barn about three meters (10 feet) from the existing house, right on the property line. We would demolish ours and build our house three meters (10 feet) from the boundary (the original house had only 35 m² (375 ft²) of floor area, so we would be increasing the footprint).
According to the official at the building department, a three-meter (10 feet) distance is not possible because of this shed/barn; only six meters (20 feet) or five meters (16 feet) with no windows on that side are permitted. This would reduce the building width at this point to 4.90 meters (16 feet) or 3.90 meters (13 feet) respectively.
I’m still a bit confused. Didn’t you just say something like “yes, we are building an extension” and then in the same sentence mention “we plan a 3m (10 ft) setback”? Doesn’t that contradict each other? Or are you partially building an extension right up to the boundary and partially building further back (with a 3m (10 ft) or maybe now a 6m (20 ft) setback)? With a 6m (20 ft) setback, it sounds like you might still be able to add something like a bay window or similar projecting feature, but probably not a full-width house. (Though it also sounds like a good architect could probably work something out? Without knowing the entire plot, of course.)
By the way, how tall is the shed? (This can partly affect whether the “under 9m (30 ft) length, so no additional setback requirements” rule applies or not.) Also, is there a zoning plan / development plan that might regulate this?
But you can see, yes, in general, boundary constructions can trigger extra setback requirements, but they might not always do so. Your situation seems quite specific based on the setup, and as a layperson, I wouldn’t want to make a definite judgement. I’d probably ask the architect again why they concluded that a 3m (10 ft) setback is sufficient and maybe get a second expert opinion (or perhaps the building authority will verify the 3m (10 ft) setback is correct after their review).
By the way, how tall is the shed? (This can partly affect whether the “under 9m (30 ft) length, so no additional setback requirements” rule applies or not.) Also, is there a zoning plan / development plan that might regulate this?
But you can see, yes, in general, boundary constructions can trigger extra setback requirements, but they might not always do so. Your situation seems quite specific based on the setup, and as a layperson, I wouldn’t want to make a definite judgement. I’d probably ask the architect again why they concluded that a 3m (10 ft) setback is sufficient and maybe get a second expert opinion (or perhaps the building authority will verify the 3m (10 ft) setback is correct after their review).
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