ᐅ Having the stairs retiled and now the step height is too high
Created on: 16 Jul 2023 09:50
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HubiTrubi40
Hello everyone,
Yesterday, I had my staircase retiled. I originally planned to do it myself, but at the moment I have too much going on. So the tiler did the stairs yesterday, and when I tried to close the front door afterward, it wouldn’t shut. He made a mistake. He quickly ground down the edge of the tiles with an angle grinder. Now the door closes somewhat, but it still won’t latch because it apparently still rubs. He wants to take another look today, but it certainly won’t look any better. The edge already looks pretty rough.
The rest looks good. In the morning, he told me that tiling is not only his profession but also his hobby, so his work always turns out nicer than others’. Silly talk… I always get skeptical with comments like that.
He sealed underneath the tiles with Elastogum. But then there was a storm yesterday, and it rained heavily right onto the freshly laid tiles around midday. I hope that doesn’t cause any damage. I mean, it’s not his fault, but I still hope the fresh tile adhesive hasn’t been dissolved.
Other than that, I’m curious what khr thinks. Is there any way to fix this? Tearing everything out and redoing it would also be unfortunate. I think I will ask him for a price…
Yesterday, I had my staircase retiled. I originally planned to do it myself, but at the moment I have too much going on. So the tiler did the stairs yesterday, and when I tried to close the front door afterward, it wouldn’t shut. He made a mistake. He quickly ground down the edge of the tiles with an angle grinder. Now the door closes somewhat, but it still won’t latch because it apparently still rubs. He wants to take another look today, but it certainly won’t look any better. The edge already looks pretty rough.
The rest looks good. In the morning, he told me that tiling is not only his profession but also his hobby, so his work always turns out nicer than others’. Silly talk… I always get skeptical with comments like that.
He sealed underneath the tiles with Elastogum. But then there was a storm yesterday, and it rained heavily right onto the freshly laid tiles around midday. I hope that doesn’t cause any damage. I mean, it’s not his fault, but I still hope the fresh tile adhesive hasn’t been dissolved.
Other than that, I’m curious what khr thinks. Is there any way to fix this? Tearing everything out and redoing it would also be unfortunate. I think I will ask him for a price…
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Buchsbaum19 Jul 2023 08:15So, before water from outside could enter your hallway through the door, there would need to be a very heavy rain shower.
The tiler probably also installed a slope away from the door to allow water to drain off.
Again, as you mentioned yourself, the door presses against the tile edge with a rubber seal, which acts as a stop. This ensures the door is watertight. It should also be reasonably airtight.
If the floor levels of the hallway and stairs were exactly the same height, the door wouldn’t seal at all—neither against water nor air.
You don’t have a thermally broken aluminum threshold like those in modern doors. What the tiler did is perfectly fine.
When you install a new door in the future, it will have a threshold that aligns perfectly with the tile level on the stairs. The new door will then close against this threshold. You can look this up online if you want.
The tiler probably also installed a slope away from the door to allow water to drain off.
Again, as you mentioned yourself, the door presses against the tile edge with a rubber seal, which acts as a stop. This ensures the door is watertight. It should also be reasonably airtight.
If the floor levels of the hallway and stairs were exactly the same height, the door wouldn’t seal at all—neither against water nor air.
You don’t have a thermally broken aluminum threshold like those in modern doors. What the tiler did is perfectly fine.
When you install a new door in the future, it will have a threshold that aligns perfectly with the tile level on the stairs. The new door will then close against this threshold. You can look this up online if you want.
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HubiTrubi4019 Jul 2023 14:56Buchsbaum schrieb:
Again. As you yourself write, the door presses against the tile edge with a rubber seal, which serves as a stop. This ensures the seal. It is supposed to be at least somewhat airtight. No, not exactly. The rubber lip presses against this first rail... this is not the tile edge but the door threshold (see yellow marking). Therefore, the raised tile edge carries a certain risk of water ingress (blue marking). Probably most likely from the side (second image). And yes, there is a slope there. However, it is a very slight slope. He said it was no longer possible.
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HubiTrubi4020 Jul 2023 10:09ateliersiegel schrieb:
Was that given beforehand? Previously, the tile edge was flush with the door threshold, so there was no step.
@Buchsbaum needs to correct me. The rubber was positioned above the threshold. So yes, in that respect, it would now be at the tile edge.
I will test it with a hose this evening. What caught my attention was that the metal strip at the edge of the stairs/landing is slightly higher than the tile surface. It’s not a tripping hazard, but water collects there.
Yesterday, I asked an acquaintance who is an inspector. He suggested tearing everything out and starting over. That’s the radical approach and not my preferred option.
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KarstenausNRW20 Jul 2023 10:18HubiTrubi40 schrieb:
Yesterday I asked an acquaintance who is an expert. He said to demolish everything and start over. That’s the radical approach. Not my preferred option though.I’ve now read the entire thread. The radical approach is actually the only correct solution. Even if it looks okay visually without the door issue, to be honest, it’s downright poor workmanship. A height like that, which allows easy access into the house, is unacceptable. Any specialist would give the same statement within 10 seconds: tear it down and rebuild.H
HubiTrubi4020 Jul 2023 10:26KarstenausNRW schrieb:
Entry point into the houseYou mean for the water, right?H
HubiTrubi4021 Jul 2023 08:41Yesterday, I also did a test by briefly spraying water from a garden hose against the door, and the flow was relatively weak. Water entered within a few seconds. My neighbor said this would happen even if the edge were flush with the metal strip on the door. It was like that before, but I’m not sure. Water also accumulates along the edge of the stainless steel strip at the front of the platform.
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